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Atrocity ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 42 |
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All of a sudden the Alto, at about the same price, starts to look like very very good value. The latest ones look very trick. Atrocity.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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£10k doesn't seem too bad for an Epoxy two man boat.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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If you add all the 'one or two opens a year' folks, with all the kids sailing in their designated youth class and the (you can't deny if even if you wanted to) popularity of the Laser, I'd say quite a few sailors still cherish class racing, either at local, national and international level.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Ah .. the wiff of a full blown fishing expedition !
Come on guys give us a chance ! Any boat is poor value at any price if 1) you simply don't 'get' it or 2) you are not really interested anyway. 3) totally and hopelessly devoted to class 'x' already (just like life-long supporting xxxxx F.C. ) It is public knowledge we sold a number at £ 8k with North Sails, full carbon rig, cover and trolley a while back. You might think that is still poor if you were not attracted to soemthing like Icon at the time. So if you are perhaps now warming to the idea just wait a while and see the Devoti Icon pricing .... we will still be offering excellent value but not the cheapest 2 man possible out there. We/they do not believe creating a bubble of instant demand by 'crash' discounting. It produces losses all too easily that can quickly weaken the supplier (= a worry for the customer) ... and sometimes a slump in used boat prices (= another real worry for owners .. you might get stuck with 'it' if 'x' is not for you long term). The 'first three' offer is however based on sound business reasoning and will still feature when the new pricing is released by Devoti - the discount levels are attractive but sustainable. We are going after group purchasing and fleet development as part of the overall strategy. But you have got to want one first ... so really why not try one ? Yeah I'm in the business so should say this stuff anyway but as an occasional racer myself ... yes seriously ... it is gorgeous anyway ! Mike L. (will try and duck away now ... all this forum stuff is ... er well I better go sailing) |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Particularly if you add in all the handicap races where many of the participants mostly care about their result relative to their own class. A PY race with no other RS400's is rarely the real deal to me. How we do against 600's or whatever is much less important. But I think some people specifically don't want that. They are happier sailing in a race in a boat that sets them apart as individuals and may not be terribly keen on comparing their performance with others. I'm fine with that, it's their choice and both my clubs would be weaker without such people. |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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very true- nothing wrong with that of course, it's just a different way to enjoy your time on the water and if a spreadsheet gives some meaning to it, then fair enough, who are we, or anyone, to judge?
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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£8k is a bargain for an epoxy boat with a carbon rig. Hope it establishes a fleet.
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cad99uk ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 187 |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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![]() 8-10k sounds great when you consider a new Grad is over £7k now with all the trimmings, and I imagine there will be plenty of people stepping up from the likes of Grads who dont want an Ent! |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Yep. Excellent value!
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