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    Posted: 04 Sep 12 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by Andymac

If I had heeded the signal and returned from my 'perfect' start what redress would I have expected (or received) if any

I was about to say none, then I read it again... Are you saying that the sound signal and flag, at your start, was actually for a boat that was OCS on a previous start, two minutes before? Bearing in mind that 29.1 says the flag and signal shall be displayed promptly after the start there's no way that was a valid action. Whether it justifies redress is another matter.

On the other hand you never know if there's a boat that is PMS halfway up the beat or something, so I suppose it could be argued you should know whether you are OCS or not, and if you haven't got courage of your convictions its your fault.

I'm intrigued to see what Brass and Gordon make of this one!
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Whilst the subject of erreneous individual recalls are currently being discussed, I would like to share what happened to me a few Wednesdays ago...
 
Start of the 'slow' handicap fleet primarily comprising Lasers and Solos.
I was mid-line and, as far as I was concerned, by my transits 100% behind the line.
I got what I felt was a perfect start, only to hear a 2nd sound signal and looking over my shoulder seeing the individual recall flag... As I looked over my shoulder I had a clear view of the committee boat mast which suggested no boat at the committee boat end was further over than me... similarly at the start signal I had a clear sighting of the pin end suggesting that no boat that end was further over the line than me. The simple deduction would be that it was me over the line.
I however was adamant at the time that I wasn't over the line and decided to sail on (and risk the OCS). By the time I reached the 2nd mark, (in 2nd place) the nagging doubts had overcome me so I
decided to 'retire', and sailed off in the opposite direction to the rest of the fleet, only then to about turn and rejoin the back of the race after giving up about 5 minutes. I continued sail round the course without interfering with any other boat just for the fun of it, retaking the majority of the fleet again.
As I crossed the finish line, I acknowledged the individual recall (which I had disregarded) expecting to be scored OCS... Only to be told that I wasn't.  They were signalling a Laser 2000 who happened to be OCS... 2 minutes after their start signal, having capsized upwind on their way out to start and whilst approaching the line to make a valid start.
Begs the question; If I had heeded the signal and returned from my 'perfect' start what redress would I have expected (or received) if any?
As it was, I took myself out of contention for the lead, and eventually credited 6th after handicaps were calculated. Wacko
 
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