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    Posted: 15 Mar 12 at 10:06pm
Splicing. I can do twelve strand no bother, running and fixed loops.

Am I trying the impossible trying to splice as small as 4mm braid on braid, excel pro, there just doesn't seem enough room / give in the outer to create a covered loop.

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Its not impossible, but it is a lot of work.

The best tip is to get inventive with your choice of fid. At that diameter even the smallest proper fids are too big. Doubled-over seizing wire is usually my choice. And patience, lots of patience....
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...That said, Ive just re-read your post.

I dont have any on hand to check, But I thought Excel Pro was a twisted polyester core as opposed to a braid-on-braid? If thats the case you will have significantly more trouble.

Its still technically possible, but the technique is different to a double braid splice and the difficulty/success ratio means its probably not worth doing unless you really really want to.
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Sorry you're correct, now checked, I should have said New Excel Racing (12 strand dyneema core). 

Thanks for advice and confirming it's a tight one to manage. Good tip on the folded wire, one more try before a re-think.
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It's for a tail on my 2:1 jib halyard. The current (getting a bit worn) three strand which every-one uses tends to impart a twist as you pull it over the top sheave which then tries to spin up the furler just as it reaches the top. In truth some of the twist also comes from the wire running over the sheave.

Present solution is a piece of sacrificial tape on the top spinner, may just stick with that and status quo.

I suppose if it really bugs me that much I could replace the twisted wire halyard with twelve strand.
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Has anyone tried that rooster splicing tool, basically an expensive version of doubled up wire? Is it any good? Could be the tool for the job if it actually works.
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Originally posted by laser193713

Has anyone tried that rooster splicing tool, basically an expensive version of doubled up wire? Is it any good? Could be the tool for the job if it actually works.


Yes I have one for continuous line splicing and it works OK. The wire loop as supplied was too big so had to be pinched down. Practice in front of the telly before trying in the dinghy park!


Edited by timeintheboat - 16 Mar 12 at 1:51pm
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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Take it to a sailmaker and get it sewn? works for me.
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