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    Posted: 06 Jan 12 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by Andymac

Originally posted by Dave Chiz

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Originally posted by fudheid



[QUOTE=JimC]It looks as if someone has tried to do a repair on the cheap and it hasn't come off. If that was a full price job I think the repairer needs to be looking at themselves if they billed for it. If on the other hand it was "well, we'll have a go on the cheap, no guarantees, its at your own risk whether it works or not, mate", then well, these things happen.
According to the MD of the carbon specialists (oh yeah they are specialists, i know i should name and shame but i won't) it took 35 manhours to Feck this up. When they saw the job full of confidence 'no problems, we are experts at this will be good as new' Dead


dude... with mates like you....

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@fudheid

Your tone was hardly suggestive of a mate doing you a favour for free with a sh*t bag write-off that should've been scrapped... you kind of insinuated that you'd been ripped off with a botch job.

perhaps your next opening post won't fail so miserably first time round


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Dave,

While I do sympathise with dirty washing being cleaned in public, please do acknowledge that some of us are skilled boatbuilders, in carbon, composite, GRP, and even wood.. In my experience, carbon mast repairs, are not difficult, but once it goes slightly pear shaped, it goes totally pear shaped.... I would have refused to release the mast to the owner, until I was happy with the repair, no matter how much I was pestered for it.... It looks like this may have been a learning experience for you, with regard to protecting your image...

We have all cocked up a few things in our time (I remember launching a customers boat, but not checking that all the hoses were connected to the sea cocks, when we checked on the boat a few hours later, the decks were at water level!), but, as long as we learn from our mistakes, we should improve...

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Originally posted by rogue

Originally posted by Dave Chiz

What it has to do with you lot I have no idea?!


... because the OP said this:

Originally posted by fudheid

I've had a carbon mast repaired and its not straight and NO i will not take it back to the guy who failed so miserably first time round Ouch


I guess it would have been prudent to have worded it along the lines of:

... because the guy who tried his best to do me a favour at very short notice for FREE couldn't salvage it from its written-off state...

 
think the original OP was (i know it woz me wot don it LOL) :-
1. Can it be straightened - i presume split and patched??? Confused
2. Who to do it? East coast or M25
 Any idea on costs? i know thats 3 questions Big smile
We were asking advice on who people use or recommend for this sort of thing.

I'm with Dave on this "someone say pub?"
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Originally posted by Dave Chiz

What it has to do with you lot I have no idea?!


... because the OP said this:

Originally posted by fudheid

I've had a carbon mast repaired and its not straight and NO i will not take it back to the guy who failed so miserably first time round Ouch


I guess it would have been prudent to have worded it along the lines of:

... because the guy who tried his best to do me a favour at very short notice for FREE couldn't salvage it from its written-off state...
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No carbonology had nothing to do with it. 

I did it.  I repaired the 2 breaks on Simons mast as a favour in my own time at my own place with my own tools and materials. For free. 
But I couldn't get the tip straight - I tried a number of times. I wanted to try again but he wanted it back.

I am sure all of you would be able to do it first time and all of you would be able to do a perfect job in 3 minutes flat with just a puncture repair kit and a rusty teaspoon so I bow to your fantastic skill and talent in repairing masts. Well this time I got it wrong. I admit it. I have never denied it. 

I have admitted to Si that I made a mistake - The biggest one being that because Si needed the mast back and I'd had it a long time trying to get it right, I panicked and let him have it back. I should have kept it, cut it back and repaired it again... I accept that. What it has to do with you lot I have no idea?!

SO there you have it. The absolute truth. Can we go to the pub now?

I personally repaired that mast in my own time as a favour to a mate for no charge. The mast was a write off (and therefore should really have been destroyed or disposed of) but I said to Si I could probably get it in one piece in a sound enough state so it could be used again. And indeed that I did. When it was wired up it would have been difficult to tell it was off axis - Though I totally accept this is not ideal, it really was a 'something for nothing' mast. Where the mast is broken lower down in the parallel section the repair is fine. But repairing a taper is much harder as the insert is parallel and there was hardware in the way - but you all know that I am sure.





Edited by Dave Chiz - 07 Jan 12 at 5:33am
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