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    Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 3:24pm
I'd just like to add three points....

1. Carbonology had NOTHING to do with that mast... 
2. Carbonology has never been paid for repairing that mast... (See 1.)
3. Carbonology does not do boat repairs or mast repairs and we never have.

Please get your facts straight before you kick off.

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When I was working as a boatbuilder on a yard, if I had done a repair like that, I would have been sacked!!! And I would not feel hard done by if I had been. I showed the pictures to a colleague at work, who used to do carbon repairs on aircraft, and he likewise, was shocked.

I would not pay, and would not use them again after that repair....

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From a so called professional that is truly awful. How could he let it out of his shop looking like that? 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fudheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by MikeBz

Like a few other posters I'm baffled as to why you apparently went ahead with the repair when the quote was considerably more than the cost of a brand new mast Confused  At least you didn't pay!  You may still be effectively out of pocket if the mast was repairable before this botched attempt.
 
You have nothing to lose by sending pictures to known reputable repairers of these masts (Chipstow and Synthesize spring to mind) and see if they think it could be put right and at what cost.
 
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Remember this was from a total write off/salvage - the insurance paid out in full. We were told by several repairs that the mast was repairable. We used this company as we know them and have done work for them and seen some of their dinghies and car parts which always look good.
We had an agreement on some work we did in August that they would repair our mast and deck in return for some of our gear, after waiting 3 months we got a bit tetchy and the reply  I posted here was their response. Their original price when we were working out the like for like was £600 including a deck repair (which is excellent - no complaints there). I get the feeling that they are very last minute and as we are in the 'mates' category we can be forgotten about and not get the highest quality repairs or finishing - the hull needed a little finishing before painting)
So lesson learnt.  Ouch No free work and no friends or family
We have sent photos to chipstow.
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Like a few other posters I'm baffled as to why you apparently went ahead with the repair when the quote was considerably more than the cost of a brand new mast Confused  At least you didn't pay!  You may still be effectively out of pocket if the mast was repairable before this botched attempt.
 
You have nothing to lose by sending pictures to known reputable repairers of these masts (Chipstow and Synthesize spring to mind) and see if they think it could be put right and at what cost.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fudheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

.....That kind of job is 10h all things being equal.  


Ahhh there in lies the problem, it probably was repaired in under 10 hours! after putting a little pressure on as to when we would get the mast back. I got the feeling it probably left the workshop still curing!
I wouldn't be surprised if it only took 3 hours in total, only glad that cost wise i have not paid. Not sure its even worth putting the fittings back on pretty sure the sail is going to need luff recut - not worth it methinks!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:33pm
And a good repairer will have stock of sail track of all types, scavenged from written off tubes if needs be.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:31pm
I think I know who did that, and I have had trouble even buying stuff from them.
35 hours!
That kind of job is 10h all things being equal.  Hundred quid or so for materials. Bit more to laquer it but you shouldn't see any bend or even notice a repair apart from a cosmetic wrap. Track should be seamless.
Even if he didn't have a perfect sleeve there are ways of making it line up.
Surely you could buy a similar mast new for £2200, even with the exchange the way it is.
Alternatively, get your boat insured (which you have to really if racing) and see how long the repair stands up for.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote olly_love Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:26pm
bloody hell, if thats the C****GY  Company i think you are talking about, they haev propperly f**ked up,
and a new mast is 1900 rigged so god only know why they quoted 2200, we did our repair in 5 hours,


Edited by olly_love - 05 Jan 12 at 12:29pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fudheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by timnoyce

mmm, that repair is best described as terrible. If you paid for more than the materials then you have right to complain as it is shocking!

Looks like a CST mast which is generally quite a large strand, but can be cleaned up and laminated quite nicely (I repaired a Cherub CST mast a couple of years ago). I'd not bother trying to straighten this one, just accept that it is a bad job and sail it as it is. As long as you can get the main up and it holds it up then it will be fine for training with at least, and to be honest you hardly sound like you are hoping to win the nationals so your skill will probably slow you down more than this mast.
LOLCareful you never know who your talking about Wink boat was bought as cheap dinghy, we have class wins in two and three wire boats as well as plenty of club trophies.... we were told it was repairable LOL If i keep it like it is i will have to recut my sails to fit this particular mast - not good.
Save your pennys whilst you are practising with this one and then get a new mast when you can afford it. Clap This looks like the way forward. Any one interested in Carbon tube?? LOL

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