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rogue ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 978 |
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Jack, Luke et al...
does anyone have any experience of sailing them singlehanded? The usual considerations are... big bloke (100kg), sailing inland only, mainly lightwinds? I had an old baggy that I used to take out singlehanded on occasion, never seemed to be an issue, but the boat was a bit pants and eventually sunk when the buoyancy bags ripped out... finally, adding an asymmetric... how simple would this be? Jimbo Edited by rogue - 05 Dec 11 at 4:05pm |
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Jeremy at Burghfield sails his N12 when its lightishwinds - say up to 10knots steady and he goes like a scalded cat - he's a mere sliver of a fellow though at I guess around 70kg. You'd be fine in proper conditions Jimbo being that little bit larger.
Jeremy is actually butchering an old 12 to turn in to a single hander too, but i don't know if he's adding a kite
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rogue ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 978 |
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that's kind of my thoughts... I liked the cherub's compact shape, 12ft boats are sweet- even a mirror! I've had a recommendation to try this with a Merlin (why bother buying Hadron plans and commissioning brand new...) but I'm not sure I can be arsed with wheeling a Merlin around the dinghy park on my tod.... Maybe a N12 would be better (read 'conservative') platform to achieve what I want down the line? As for the kite, I'm in two minds, well head over heart... not priority, but might want the option to customise and add one in the future. The current racing on offer at the local duck pond doesn't really suit it, and having a jib to play with would numb the boredom factor and offer a bit of potential family versatility. Edited by rogue - 05 Dec 11 at 4:22pm |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I've raced against a couple of singlehanding 12's for a few years now - they go well, with more space than in a single handed Firefly, which I enjoy. |
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x1testpilot ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 11 Location: Ealing Online Status: Offline Posts: 175 |
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I think you can single hand most dinghies. I have done so in many including Int 14 (light wind for me but I've seen it done in races!), Enterprise and firefly (these can tip further before capsizing! and X1 (sweet!).
I have always assumed you cannot compete as class rules usually state crew numbers. Ranelagh seems to allow single hander 12s in their club racing which do well. |
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Jimbo
Used to sail my children's Feva singlehanded and it was great fun. You get a main, jib and kite to play with so would keep you interested and has a nice slow PY. Need to make sure you borrow one with a centre jammer though or need more hands. About the weight of two 14 years olds as well! |
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AlexM ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857 |
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James, you should just go out and get yourself a laser!
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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As for whether you can compete, if handicap racing, all you need is a PY. We tend to knock 20 points off if you don't have a crew, but there is no science behind it, just a feeling that on a puddle you'll be faster more than slower.
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Jeremyc ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 27 Jul 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 110 |
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Both my partner and I Sail it regularly single handed when the conditions are right. I'm about 75kg and can sail it up to 10-12knts before it gets too much upwind. My partner being a lot lighter only generally does out up to 6knts or so.
Running can be a bit interesting when the wind gets up a bit as you can't stabilise the boat by having helm and crew sat on the edges. THi is why I am developing a singlehanded version so that I can sail it in more wind.... Less upwind sail area, self tacking jib and a kite so that you don't need to run dead downwind.. Its slow progress (ie no progress at the minute) as garage is not warm and dry enough to do any epoxy work at the moment. hoping to have something mid next year.... (famous last words) ![]() ![]() Edited by Jeremyc - 05 Dec 11 at 5:52pm |
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N12- pure joy
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Jeremyc ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 27 Jul 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 110 |
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Only 20 points off the PY... The twelve is a rocket in the right conditions with one person, couple of weeks ago I took over 3minutes out of the asymmetric fleet (they start 3 mins ahead of me!) and passed all but one boat on the water. As standard we take 50 off the PY (for any double hander being sailed single handed excluding feva) but I am the first to admit that in certain conditions it could do with being more than that
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D-Zero more pure joy |
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