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    Posted: 27 Oct 11 at 6:18pm
Didn't the 470 used to be non gender-specific? I seem to recall Cathy Foster contending, along with a male crew.
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The 470 did indeed use to be an open class, and I think Cathy was about the only woman who did compete at a race winning level...

Whilst you would think that if you picked the right boat then mixed crews would be favoured, in practice it doesn't seem to work like that...

One thing I would say is that I seem to see a lot more all female crewed two handers about than I did fifteen or twenty years ago, and it can only be a good thing... Some years ago I tried to do a study of what makes asymmetric boats popular in terms of championship numbers, and one factor stood out above all others: the more women in the class the more popular the class was... In fact I couldn't see any other correlations at all!



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Originally posted by Andymac


Originally posted by slop_idol



 None of the athletic sports at the Olympics have mixed teams so why should sailing? 

 
Are you not counting Badminton and Tennis then? 
 
Personally, I think sailing lends itself very well to being a mixed team sport.
Glad to see it in for one class in 2016, I'm really suprised the 470 didn't become mixed as well,
could then have indulged with some other class/event.


I was more thinking athletics as in track and field events.
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Ovington not the only one hedging bets...

MacKay Boats are developing a cut down rig 49er as a candidate...

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Is that two cut-down versions of the 49er then, or is the one skiffman was talking about the same thing? And is the 29erxx now effectively dead?

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I doubt the 29erXX is dead: I think Bethwaite is still pushing it like crazy, but it does look as if some of his partners are less than convinced it will win and want an alternative handy...

I'd love to know what actually happened in the last trials and what happened to evaluations of the boats. All I can recall seeing is handouts from the various competing boats, each saying that their boat definitely won.

I'm told [updated from orig post] the FX rig skiffman is talking about is the development MacKay rig and not the cut down 49er rig that's been around for a few years. Rumour has it that a MacKay rig was recently shipped over to the UK for a trial against the Aura.

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Originally posted by JimC

Ovington not the only one hedging bets...

MacKay Boats are developing a cut down rig 49er as a candidate...
 
QUOTE; "The boat goes a long way towards fulfilling one of the ISAF Olympic Commission Reports Recommendation to have as much shared equipment as possible between the genders."
 
Has an obvious advantage there over most other candidates. On that basis alone it could come down to whoever can design the best rig to bolt onto a 49er platform. Every other player ought to play another card and turn up with their xyz rig adapted to fit a 49er hull as well as.
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Seeing there is competion for the boat - the best is open and fair trials and best boat wins.
Unfortunately I bet there will be a pile of backroom trading by the various national organisations eg RYA
IMHO no national organisation should declare a favoured boat and should insit on allowing the trials to decide the outcome

May the best boat win

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stargazey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 11 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by SSolo

May the best boat win

And when has that ever happened in any Olympic sailing class trials ... ?

Edited by Stargazey - 28 Oct 11 at 7:31pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 11 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by Stargazey

Originally posted by SSolo

May the best boat win

And when has that ever happened in any Olympic sailing class trials ... ?

Well, lets think of some trials winners...
49er
Tornado
Contender (yes, I know it didn't get in the games in the end, but won the trials), that's the only ones I can recall)
I'm not sure what other trials
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