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    Posted: 19 Oct 11 at 11:36pm
I've been watching the test sails of this for the last couple of months. The interesting thing is how little they have had to change it from the first sail a couple of months ago. It was pretty much sorted apart from some string details right from the word go. It does look very nice on and off the water. 
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Originally posted by NickA

Didn't we have a rash of "ladies skiffs" a few years back ...... none of which one sees out on the water. 

Not really... ISAF did a weird kinda semi trials at which the main boats IIRC, were three Cherubs (as one design proposals), the 29erXX, a 14 and an RS800. So all those classes are still active and the 29erXX does seem tohave sold a few boats now, but you're right, there do not appear to be thousands of women worldwide all anxious to sail skiffs.
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sailed this a few weeks ago along with the 49er FX (baby rig 49er)
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Originally posted by Skiffman

sailed this a few weeks ago along with the 49er FX (baby rig 49er)


And..... you can't dangle the carrot like that and say nothing:-)
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If the skiff is all but dead in Australia, does that mean the rest of the world can have the name back without being shouted at?
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I like the look of the boat and think it is a welcome addition as i did not think that the 29erxx really had the weight carrying capability or the length for the new rig. I would not like to see a 800 at the games as I don't think it is a revolutionary design that the 49er was in its day. God luck to you ovingtons.
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There looks to have been a few changes to when I last saw it a few months ago. It looks like they have gone for the same racks as the Musto, where as when i saw it last if had some beautiful aerofoiled carbon racks. Nicest looking boat i have seen. Well Done Ovington
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Originally posted by NickA


Flashy colour, looks like it'll sink tho.  
 
Surely if its a girls boat its the wrong colour.
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Originally posted by rogue

 

Language morphs over time and geography- it's just one of those curious little things about the human experience that anthropology has yet to find a really good explanation for.

As for this boat- well it meets the design brief well enough on paper, will it make sailing better to watch... doubt it personally, but then I find most sailing pretty uninteresting and uninspiring to watch, so wtf do I know?


Yep, languager does change, and proof of that is the way that (for example) ther18 Footers, which once used "skiff" as an insult, are now sometimes so protective of it. So sure, the concept can chsnge; all I'm saying is that is DOES have an identifiable historical heritage and meaning and that (like any word) if used too widely it becomes less meaningful and useful.

I can only agree with your reservations about whether boats like this will lead to more people watching sailing to any real extent (or at least, to people watching sailing and therefore deciding to take it up).
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Originally posted by Rupert

If the skiff is all but dead in Australia, does that mean the rest of the world can have the name back without being shouted at?

Only if the term is given back to the French and Germans, who created it! Big smile
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