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    Posted: 19 Oct 11 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by tgruitt


Originally posted by rogue

Originally posted by Rupert

Maybe it is that shape so it has a lee bow on both sides?


depends on wind weight
Also depends on tide thickness, it's very important!


TIDE THICKNESS???

I accept that,different water DENSITIES,may make a difference, but that is really clutching at straws....If you can tell, the difference in Salinity, while sailing your boat, then you should be a multiple world champion..... (I'm guessing you're not?). Going the right way up the beat, and sailing the boat correctly is what counts.....

Good Luck, and practice, practice, practice, practice et ell....

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Originally posted by Jon711

Originally posted by tgruitt


Originally posted by rogue

Originally posted by Rupert

Maybe it is that shape so it has a lee bow on both sides?


depends on wind weight
Also depends on tide thickness, it's very important!


TIDE THICKNESS???

I accept that,different water DENSITIES,may make a difference, but that is really clutching at straws....If you can tell, the difference in Salinity, while sailing your boat, then you should be a multiple world champion..... (I'm guessing you're not?). Going the right way up the beat, and sailing the boat correctly is what counts.....

Good Luck, and practice, practice, practice, practice et ell....

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Goodness, some people on here take things literally don't they?
 
Any ideas whether this new thing has a T-foil rudder? The 14s with dreadnought bows do, which must help with fore/aft stability and therefore reduce the risk of nose-diving.
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It may seem that, I took it seriously, and there is some weight, in the suggestion.....


Not something I would go for,but each to his own......

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Originally posted by SimonW99

Oh dear, a 'fashionable' dreadnought bow nicked from powerboats, I wonder if the designer has really worked out the effect on a monohull in waves. Would love to see it upwind in a 'wind over tide' solent chop - I think you might need to be a submariner.


I guess you haven't sailed a 29er in the Solent chop then?

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Originally posted by furtive

 
Any ideas whether this new thing has a T-foil rudder? The 14s with dreadnought bows do, which must help with fore/aft stability and therefore reduce the risk of nose-diving.


Some people think it makes it 'too easy', and also less photogenic.
The bow up like that = no T-foil.

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Nope havent sailed a 29er, but spent plenty of time out with them at the recent Solent event and watched half a dozen nose dive in 25 knots. (Ovi's allegedly rescued the design during development as the original design was really bad at that). Also 29er bow is not a dreadnought like the Aura pictured and I wasn't suggesting that all Skiffs stop and dive in a chop, just that this one looks like it might. Hopefully they will publish some footage. Stiil don't think its a looker though.. Pig
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Originally posted by Jon711

Originally posted by tgruitt


Originally posted by rogue

Originally posted by Rupert

Maybe it is that shape so it has a lee bow on both sides?


depends on wind weight
Also depends on tide thickness, it's very important!


TIDE THICKNESS???

I accept that,different water DENSITIES,may make a difference, but that is really clutching at straws....If you can tell, the difference in Salinity, while sailing your boat, then you should be a multiple world champion..... (I'm guessing you're not?). Going the right way up the beat, and sailing the boat correctly is what counts.....

Good Luck, and practice, practice, practice, practice et ell....

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don't worry Jon, Tom's talking garbage as usual- have a look at the chine angle vs mast position, you'll see that Tide Thickness will make little to no difference, especially on Garda.
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I've heard the tides on Garda, are really fierce.... LOL!

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Yep, but there's a really good leebow effect available under the cliffs.
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