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MattHarris 
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 Topic: Weight Carrying In CatsPosted: 29 Sep 11 at 6:01pm |
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How well do cats carry weight, been looking at dinghies to carry around 27-28 stone and there seems very few, do cats carry the weight any better?
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 29 Sep 11 at 8:25pm |
Depending on design; well. You will not be UBER competitive; but you will have a heap of fun on a Hurricane 5.9 or Tornado and with practice weight is not a total 'mare.
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tornado435
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Posted: 29 Sep 11 at 8:26pm |
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You can probably get away with it better in the big cats, but light weight will still win :(
I'm fairly competitive on my Tornado, I'm currently 17 stone and generally have 12 to 14 stone crews. We are ok upwind in anything but the lightest breads I'm ok but I really notice the weight downwind where I get rolled really easily. It's not good to be a fat boy on any boat really. |
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a_dowley
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Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 1:42pm |
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28 stone is okay on a Tornado. We do well in the medium breeze but the F18's just seem to have that edge in the light stuff.
You notice that difference once you get about 7-8 knots of wind and you pull away from the F18's. You will always roll Phil Marks at 28 stone ;-) |
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catmandoo
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Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 2:38pm |
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Unfortunately I concurr with above weight def aint good , but as a larger fella you get more smiles per kg in a cat , lightweights will always fly past downwind , and even upwind they can hang in with modern easily depowered low drag rigs .
Tis good for tactics being a lardy bouy , you have to be spot on an hope the tiddlers make a mistake :)
One small consolation , weight seems to be much in favour on keelboats ,so when ole an senile with piddle dribbling down yur legs theres somewhere to go , and you can be competitive , unless you gone too senile
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gordon
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Posted: 03 Oct 11 at 7:41am |
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2 times 14 stone is hardly heavy. Lets face it - sailing is now a sport for small people a policy actively encouraged by our International organising body.
Even keelboat classes have weight limits that severely restrict crew size. Gordon PS Last time I was 14 stone I was a skinny 14 year old |
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MattHarris
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Posted: 06 Oct 11 at 3:50pm |
This is something that has annoyed me about sailing, there are just no true heavy weight boats out there, everything goes faster with lightweights and with the carbon fibre masts and fathead sails etc it has become much easier to depower the rigs for lightweights. Ah well rant over...
So what kind of weight does an F18 carry? I know the tornado has been suggested but i'm not a fan of the look of them, they're a bit oldfashioned (sorry if standing on any toes). Also i saw the F20 nationals on Y&Y earlier this week, what are these like for weight carrying? They look to have a similar sail area etc to the tornado but with a more modern shape?
Finally i saw this http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/classifieds/view.asp?id=2381 advert. When looking at cats are you able to get a good entry level boat for 2-3k or do you need to spend more to get a boat that doesn't break all the time. Sorry for the many daft questions...
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nacra
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Posted: 07 Oct 11 at 12:44am |
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Hi Matt, the best boat for a heavyweight is the old style nacra 20, big bouyant hulls and a narrow boat that will still fly a hull, particularly if you can get the later bigger mainsail which makes it quite a powerful boat, good entry level prices to, and theyre bulletproof.
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Stuart O
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Posted: 07 Oct 11 at 6:47am |
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Matt each person has their own view but IMHO its better to sail each boat than judge by its looks. The older F20s you mention I think look more dated than the Tornado. Ive sailed both and as Nacra says the F20 does carry weight well, but it depends on what sailing you want, there isnt much fleet racing...the odd 1 or 2 in a club...They are really stung on handicap
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tornado435
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Posted: 07 Oct 11 at 10:15am |
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For 2 to 3 k I'd be looking at a hurricane 5.9. Good solid boats with not a lot to go wrong. It's got an active class association and you will get some good racing.
Any f18 at that money will be an older shape which won't help your speed and the weight carrying abilities are not so good. |
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