AC man overboard; penalty

   You have a valid point Brass, but shouldn't it be a fundamental rule of seamanship to finish with the crew intact?
Granted, on this occasion the crew loss was entirely accidental and didn't materially help them later on, likewise manouvering one of those beasts to retrieve a person in the water wouldn't exactly be easy either.
It just seems counter intuitive to abandon a crewman in the water (however quickly they are retrieved by the safety cover).
I guess the AC can write their own S.I.'s to accomodate this eventuality, but could it encourage crew to take excessive risk?

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Andymac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 04 Apr 07 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 852	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andymac Report Post Quote Reply Topic: AC man overboard; penalty Posted: 20 Aug 11 at 2:44am
	You have a valid point Brass, but shouldn't it be a fundamental rule of seamanship to finish with the crew intact? Granted, on this occasion the crew loss was entirely accidental and didn't materially help them later on, likewise manouvering one of those beasts to retrieve a person in the water wouldn't exactly be easy either. It just seems counter intuitive to abandon a crewman in the water (however quickly they are retrieved by the safety cover). I guess the AC can write their own S.I.'s to accomodate this eventuality, but could it encourage crew to take excessive risk?

Brass Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brass Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 11 at 1:58am
	Well, if you really think that when a little darling in an International Cadet returns her forward hand to the crew pool and finishes without him, then says that 'I saw it on the AC so I thought it was OK', then it might be a problem. But given that these boats aren't carrying spare crew for ballast, and losing a crew member is going to hurt their functionality at some later stage in the race, for very little advantage, and there was probably some decision about whether it was deliberate or not, I don't see a big problem Edited by Brass - 20 Aug 11 at 2:00am

Andymac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 04 Apr 07 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 852	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andymac Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 11 at 1:02am
	Interesting, watching some of last weeks highlights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuxawYAHgI&feature=relmfu ETNZ lose a man overboard at the windward mark ( oh **** ! @10:24)... and are allowed to leave him! Penalty is to 'lose' two boat lengths on VMG? What does everyone think of this development? Should it have a place in yacht racing?