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chrisg 
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 Topic: Feckin Ecclestone....Posted: 31 Jul 11 at 11:25pm |
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Anyone else annoyed about the BBC losing the rights to screen all F1 races live next year? If you want to see them live you'll have to line the pockets of the Murdoch's.
I've thought the current coverage is some of the best ever! And some of the races have been slightly interesting too..... |
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bert
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 4:31am |
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I thought it was in the rumour stage & the teams hadn`t seen how it affects them because the sponsors will leave if you have to have sky to watch the race series. 10 million regular viewers on BBC 10 million sky subscribers’.the numbers don`t add up to me.
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jeffers
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 8:14am |
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I thought the concorde agreement stated that the coverage should be on Free to Air TV where possible...in the UK it is definitely possible so you may find that FOTA have something to say about this and something may have to be dine, there is an article on BBC Sport about it so it seems a little more than just rumours.....
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Mark Jardine
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 8:15am |
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More than just and a rumour - see http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm
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alstorer
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 9:23am |
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As well as a carefully worded bit at the start of the coverage explicitly about the deal, did anyone else notice the subtle mentions of it throught- especially from Brundle, who's vented elsewhere about it? Bernie seemed pretty unwilling to talk on the grid as well...
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Laser 173312
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This is the worrying part, it means a 2 hour race will need a 5 hour show!
As long as the BBC show Monaco, Silverstone, Spa, Monza and the last race I'll be happy. Sky can happily have Singapore, I hate that race.
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alstorer
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 9:56am |
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To be fair, BBC gives over 3 hours to a 2 hr race plus the additional hour and a half or so on the red button- plus full coverage of qualification and every practice session. |
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chrisg
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 2:33pm |
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I think the concorde agreement had a loophole added that said something along the lines of the rights holder had to ensure that not all coverage was on a pay to view channel. So, as the BBC will have some races live next year they are in the clear on that one.
Something fishy is definitely going on. I've read further that it wasnt actually Ecclestone who brokered this deal but that in the BBC cost cutting measures (£900m to move to Manchester anyone) they couldnt afford to honour the remaining period of their contract - to the end of 2013. Bernie said it wasnt down to him to sort out so the BBC went to Sky to partner them. Apparently if the BBC had pulled out wholly then the F1 people would have had to go to a free to air channel and Channel 5 had offered whatever Sky were offering for coverage. But the BBC don't view Sky as a direct competitor but do ITV, Channel 4 and 5 etc so by keeping some races effectively closed the door for any other terrestrial channel in the UK to bid for the whole shebang. Plus the murdoch's are currently trying to buy F1 company which may have had something to do with it... What I also don't understand is why the teams are swallowing Bernies line that this will increase viewing figures, must be the promise of the additional £1m payment they are being offered from the deal. It's weird becaue every Sky customer can already watch F1 on the BBC, but not every BBC viewer will be able to watch Sky Sports. So how does that improve ratings? Can you imagine the uproar if the BBC decided they could only afford to show every other episode of Eastenders next year? I heard that the viewing figures for yesterdays F1 was +6m. The most watched program on any channel in the UK. Niche sport huh? I loved all of the little digs in the commentary over the weekend - Brundle opened with " the Skys closing in", right through to where during the forum afterwards the three presenters went to talk to the crowd and someone grabbed the microphone and said we dont want sky. Jake Humphreys did a really fake shocked look. Brilliant. And breathe.... Apologies. rant over..... p.s. over 6000 negative replies to the head of BBC F1's blog so far - do you think they get the picture yet? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2011/07/f1_coverage_to_be_shared_betwe.html Edited by chrisg - 01 Aug 11 at 2:34pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 4:39pm |
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If that is how it went down, the BBC seem to be attempting to write there own death warrant. Ummm... Lets find the best way to migrate as many loyal BBC viewers to a subscription channel and make the license fee debate even harder to argue.
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chrisg
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Posted: 01 Aug 11 at 6:04pm |
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Of course what I read may be misinformation being spread by FOM....
As I said I'm sure something fishy is going on. |
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