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    Posted: 07 Feb 11 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Roy Race

Originally posted by marksey

Originally posted by Jamie600

 
"It could have been the dense cold breeze that you tend to get in the winter, which can make the breeze feel stronger"
 
 
Lol i love how ppl role this one out, i guess if you go to the north pole the air is like treacle? nothing to do with air density all to do with wind shear, i think if i heard the RO say that i would have been concerned  


Not quite like treacle, but more dense, yes.

What's not to understand? One cubic Metre of air at 30degreesC has a mass of 1.17kg, a cubic metre of air at 0degreesC has a mass of 1.29Kg. That's a 10% difference.

For the same speed, a cubic metre of 0degreesC air flowing over your sails will impart more energy than a cubic metre of 30degreesC air flowing over your sails, because it is heavier. There's simply more stuff going round your sails.


 
Isn't that where you get the term "blowing 110%", makes perfect sense to me
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Anyone know if Rutland are going to publish the times or if anyone can get hold of them?
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but if air was as 'thick' as treacle would we really sail faster?

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Originally posted by marksey

Originally posted by Jamie600

 
"It could have been the dense cold breeze that you tend to get in the winter, which can make the breeze feel stronger"
 
 
Lol i love how ppl role this one out, i guess if you go to the north pole the air is like treacle? nothing to do with air density all to do with wind shear, i think if i heard the RO say that i would have been concerned  


Not quite like treacle, but more dense, yes.

What's not to understand? One cubic Metre of air at 30degreesC has a mass of 1.17kg, a cubic metre of air at 0degreesC has a mass of 1.29Kg. That's a 10% difference.

For the same speed, a cubic metre of 0degreesC air flowing over your sails will impart more energy than a cubic metre of 30degreesC air flowing over your sails, because it is heavier. There's simply more stuff going round your sails.




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It was stupidly windy, i don't kow how windy it was, but the waves and water temprature made it very tricky.  I had major brain freeze after spudily not wearing a hat.  I have certainly not sailed in much like it before, for the hour we were out upwind was mental.  Olly got washed off the boat, which is mad on a lake.  It was impossible for us with knackered rudder fittings meaning we had no control and the rudder was fully loaded upp and a kicker that was fully on but in hindsight only about half the kicker needed due to the fitting pulling out.  We did however manage to sail the boat back to shore hiking it flat with my foot holding the rudder somehwere near central which i was chuffed about.

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Originally posted by tgruitt

Originally posted by Fraggle

Talking to some rib drivers in the changing rooms on Sunday they were getting 40knot readings over a reasonable time frame.  Definitely wasn't 20knots average on either day by any means.  The lulls might have been 20 but some of those gusts were lethal!  Very happy boat and me made it round in one piece!


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I see from the report that Smithy went away from the Tiger £1k better off. Nice.  I can't think of any other dinghy races in the UK that pay this sort of money?   
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Originally posted by Fraggle

Talking to some rib drivers in the changing rooms on Sunday they were getting 40knot readings over a reasonable time frame.  Definitely wasn't 20knots average on either day by any means.  The lulls might have been 20 but some of those gusts were lethal!  Very happy boat and me made it round in one piece!


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Talking to some rib drivers in the changing rooms on Sunday they were getting 40knot readings over a reasonable time frame.  Definitely wasn't 20knots average on either day by any means.  The lulls might have been 20 but some of those gusts were lethal!  Very happy boat and me made it round in one piece!
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Originally posted by bert

On the insurance front I reckon that if the RO desides to run the race then you would be insured.
I have known RO's to say we are going racing but you sail at your own risk!  Not sure how that stands but i think it helps!!!
 
Still windy here today as i am sat watching the water from my shop window, reckon its breezyer today than it was over the weekend.
 
Wind readings from the windy meter i have here never topped 40kts but was averaging 25 to 35kts, and on the saturday because of the direction this was a little sheltered, but by the looks of some of the faces coming off the water on saturday it looked like it was fun Wink
 
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