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    Posted: 08 Jan 11 at 5:55am
Originally posted by Merlinboy

It would never work because people don't want to spend that sort of money and especially not with the reasons i mentioned before.  Its a FACT.


It's a fact that there are sailors out there with £15K to spend on a nice toy. Consider I14s. Consider keelboats. It isn't everyone but there are significant numbers who have that kind of money. There are clubs - not all but some - that have the water for this kind of boat. It there were a genuinely accessible foiler, it would sell. Not Feva-type-for-the-masses but it would sell.

Would I buy one? If I believed I could actually sail it, you bet I would. Life's too short not to.


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I have just been on the bladerider site and in there promo videos they have an american guy weighing in at 204kilos.
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i should imagine that's 204lbs olly, 204 kilos is something like 32 stone
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yeah may have got that wrong it was 205ibs.
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Yeah it is Ibs and it apparently converts to 14.9st
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Why does the international moth not fit your requirements.  How big are you?
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Originally posted by Jon Meadowcroft

Why does the international moth not fit your requirements.  How big are you?


I'm aware the question wasn't addressed to me but FWIW I have owned an Int Moth, albeit before they became ultra-narrow and long before they became airbourne. The foilers are too athletically demanding and too fragile for me. I belong to a club with a keen foiler fleet so I've watched newbie Mothists trying to sail them and I've witnessed the endless broken it/mending it cycles. I think foiling Moths are the most exciting development in sailing in many years but alas they are not for me. One thing however that I am not is too heavy!
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For me the "barrier" is how long it would take to get good enough to enjoy racing.  It's the racing element that keeps me coming back and spending my £££s, for just pottering about I'd be happy with something a lot more boring and stable.  Like many, I don't sail every week(end) as family & work commitments make this impossible, so even if there was a proliferation of designs allowing heavier folks to enjoy foiling (I'm about 85kg in my gear) I wouldn't be that interested as would take me yonks to get good enough to just get round a course and the 'thrill' of just foiling would wear thin pretty quickly when compared with the frustration of continually capsizing during the start sequence then trailing round after much slower boats while grappling with the angles and vast differentials in speed between "low-riding" and foiling.

Just my 3p worth, but doubt I'm alone....
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Nearly heavy enough for a 10.2 rig though ;-)

It's reasonably clear from what you read around the world that a moth will happily foil with a 95-100kg person on board, it's just that you have no chance of being competitive. I could conceivably crash diet down from 95kg to 87-90kg without too much trouble (I was down to 92 before my knee gave way at the end of last year) so could get to the top end of moth weight but I'm not flexible or agile enough to sail one properly. Not being competitive, or sensing that I was improving, would be the killer for me, if I just wanted to blast back and forth as quickly as possible then I'd take up windsurfing, the only reason to go foiling would be go the racing.
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"Foiler for the masses"

Isn't this what the 600FF is?
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