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    Posted: 04 Dec 10 at 9:49pm
Have you considered an International 14 as well as a B14, just asking as when we were looking at boats a while back we were considering the B14, RS800 and I14 within the same selection group. Ended up saying f%ck it and bought a 49er instead as it was the best boat sailing wise from our point of view. Moral to the story, try before you buy.
 
Just mentioned the I14 as it's challenging but forgiving and a good sea boat with the T-foil on the back. You may prefer the B14 as the T-foil isn't everyones cup of tea. For a direct comparison between the 29er and B14, I'd bully Al into getting out in his boat.
 
What's better? B14 or 29er? There's only one way to find out.... F-I-G-H-T!!!!
 
Well axtually, no. Sail them and see!
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and remember it doesnt have all that we kite sitting in a chute on the bow pushing the nose down
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The B14 handles chop quite well considering its relatively short length, also it does have a largeish bow and pleanty of rocker so it keeps its nose up.

Bag hoists and drops are easy, we can get the kite up far quicker than most sock hoists at club level and drops can be far quicker as well.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

If ever a boat needed bringing up to date and that stupid kite bag ditching.
After about 3 sails I found the bag kite on our 5k just as quick and easy as a chute kite to drop. Admittedly it's a bit more of a pain to hoist as the helm has to pull a bit of a string, which wouldn't be an issue if the helm did the halyard as that runs really smooth, unfortunately we see to be set up for the crew to do the halyard.

Bag kites shouldn't be a put off for a boat, they have their pros and cons. Some of the pros being; Super smooth halyard hoist (seriously, hoisting a dry kite out of a bag is like pulling line of the reel and the chandlery!), never having to shimmy down to the bow to sort out a kite that wont go in/come out of the chute and not having a big wet lump weighing the bow down.
However they do mean the helm has to pull some string on the hoist (although a few chute boats have that as well) and they are pain when you capsize as you have to stuff the kite back in the bag with the boat on its side.
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Thorpe Bay run W-L for assymetrics. Which is nice. It's quite fun on the longer races too- the Nore race was an utter blast this year, though along the Sheppey/Medway mouth leg we really were glad of the weight we carry- we were able to drive really, really hard on the 2-sail reach over the chop.
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It's great at dealing with ugly stupid helm & crews..
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Is the issue that there's too much depth in the standard kite, so it can't point high enough to make the mark? Also, how well does the boat deal with chop?
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the b14 isnt brilliant at club racing, due to the shape of the kite
HOWEVER,
 there are different cuts of kite, we have a flatter one RS-02 which is designed for round the cans,
this makes it nice and easy to sail
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I can't say i love the 800, its really 29er vs B14. Which is more difficult (to do club racing in), and then the controversial question: which is more fun to sail? Assuming that i have a regular crew, which i'm sure i can manage. Even if it ends up being my dad...
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Yup, the aussie helms do the main. The French swap sheets- but they swap back for tacking. This is slow and obvious, but they've shown some good (but not world-beating yet) speed.
It's a pretty big jib without a self tacker. it rewards being played up wind. Also, the crew can play the kicker and cunningham- the really quick teams are constantly adjusting them as they move through the gears.
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