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    Posted: 02 Dec 10 at 12:33am
If ever a boat needed bringing up to date and that stupid kite bag ditching.
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I did own one for a few months Grumpf, we were far too heavy for it though.  I bought it cheap to use over the summer and had no intension of keeping it long term.  I really enjoyed it, its such a well manered boat:

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

But the B14 racks carry corrector weights so have not increased performance either.
By the way i dont own a B14. 

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But the B14 racks carry corrector weights so have not increased performance either.
By the way i dont own a B14. 
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Deck updates haven't affected performance, older boats are still competitive.
 
If you don't have a constant crew, what's wrong with having less to do up front? That's a bonus in my opinion.
 
Don't know the situation with the B14 builder, but until something happens, wouldn't count my chickens before my eggs have hatched. Shame ovi dropped the boat and don't want to look too far into it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Dec 10 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by Menace

No brainer, get an 800! Here are the reasons
 
8) Doubtful if the boat will have an OD design update, unlike things like "lets put carbon racks on the boat."
 
I'd say their slightly less interesting than the B14 but a much better option, my heart would be saying B14 (having an experienced crew) but I'd still end up going with the head and buying an 800. You could always buy a really cheap B14, see how it works out for a while, upgrade if it's going well or cut your losses on ebay if the worst comes to the worst.
What you mean like the deck layout update the 800 had a few years ago??  or the proposed changes to the 400???  The B14 boys will get a new builder sorted quick enough, carbon wings in the long run will be cheaper then alloy replacements.  Also with a B14 you can choose your sailmaker. Also there is something for the crew to do upwind in the B14.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Menace Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Dec 10 at 8:28pm
No brainer, get an 800! Here are the reasons
 
1) Quick skiff (almost as fast as a 49er).
2) Good healthy Class association.
3) Easier to train part time crew up (bagging the kite on a B14 will be a ball ache with a "part time crew").
4) Rewarding to sail.
5) Currently have a stable boat builder.
6) Will hold their value well and easy to sell on if you want to progress onto something like the 49er, which you may not want to do after sailing the boat for a while.
7) Good fun, with little hassle.
8) Doubtful if the boat will have an OD design update, unlike things like "lets put carbon racks on the boat."
 
I'd say their slightly less interesting than the B14 but a much better option, my heart would be saying B14 (having an experienced crew) but I'd still end up going with the head and buying an 800. You could always buy a really cheap B14, see how it works out for a while, upgrade if it's going well or cut your losses on ebay if the worst comes to the worst.
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I doubt very much that any more 29ers will pop up. Most are content to stay in Fevas, Cadets and picos until they either stop sailing or move up to another boat later. Alternately, they get a cat, and sail it incompetently. When the last/first 29er came, everyone wanted one, but nobody except myself had the freedom or real will to get one and then to sail it enough to do anything worthwhile with it if they did get it. We don't really have many boys, and the girls simply don't want to sail that often/hard.

How tippy are B14s compared to 29ers? and also, how technically challenging to sail are they compared to 29ers?
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but with their combined weight of 140kgs they would be massivly over weight in the 9er and only get wiring in the heavy stuff, granted they may be quicker in that but still most of the breeze in the uk is light
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Originally posted by Jaws

no fleet of B14s but only one 29er anyway, so not much of either.

 
So if you got a 29er there would be 2 - someone else might think well theres two now so i'll get one and a small fleet is born!
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