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    Posted: 01 Dec 10 at 7:00am
That was us Jaws. It all went very, very wrong very quickly- massively overloaded, Barry tried to ease the main and dropped it. Unlike the 29er, it does have uppers to support the spinnaker hoist, but those can only help so far. Usually need, like most big spinnaker boats, the main to act as a backstay.
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Originally posted by alstorer

...my helm seems to view hiking as optional

As do most other helms...
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Where you at the TBYC open in September? If so, did you break the mast there? I was watching one of the Bs when the upper third snapped on the downwind (just as my father pointed out its speed), pretty impressive i must say :)
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I'd normally say to see the B14 forum for more in depth answers but new sign-ups are currently off due to website moving stuff or something, so here goes:

exact weight? Not so sure. There are some lightish teams able to fly like the clappers even in bigger winds. Current North main is easily depowered. You'd be at the low end of the weight range.

Hiking? Light teams hike hard. Heavy teams can be more upright, and my helm seems to view hiking as optional.

Main sheet loads aren't bad. Helm takes the main, and upwind can use their bodyweight to help pull it in as it is boom-sheeted. Jib loads can be pretty high, even with cleats, a ratchet and 2:1 sheeting! Spinnaker loads depend on how stupid you're being. They were really, really high when we snapped the mast this year...

They're not ideal if you have trouble with having a regular crew. The kite hoist and drop especially takes a reasonable level of coordination and understanding to go smoothly.

Barry and I would love it if there was a second B14 at TBYC. Various things conspired to result in us barely being there this year- but with a second to sail against, we might make more of an effort. Not sure when we'll have the boat back down there, but once we do (spring sometime), if you're still deciding I'll try and remember and we'll get you (and your crew) out for a trial.

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Having narrowed my search down, ive decided that if i want to singlehand i'll go MPS, but i find doublehanding more fun. As such, i think that it's a choice between 29er or B14. I havent sailed a B14 before, so just a few questions about them:
  • What's the minimum combined weight needed to sail in say force 4-5, gusting towards top 5?
  • What sort of hiking is involved? Is it hardcore Laser hiking, or more upright?
  • What are the sheet loads like, especially on the main?
  • How difficult are they compared to a 29er (to helm AND to crew)?
I sail at TBYC, no fleet of B14s but only one 29er anyway, so not much of either. Plenty of space. Assume combined crew weight say 130-145 kilos, 20 to 22 stone. I have reasonable experience helming assymetrics in fair winds.

Thanks :) 

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