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    Posted: 10 Sep 10 at 11:52pm
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Hi Graeme,

Upwind I don't think your centre mainsheet set up is doing you any favours here.

My advice would be to go back to the original set up and give sheeting-from-the-boom a try - you will find it is very comfortable and enables very subtle continuous trimming allowing you to keep the boat on the sweet spot.

For me this works really well and I don't use the ratchet (not needed because sheet load is so low) or the cleat. I leave the main cleated in the downwind position and simply let it run out and let go at the bear away.

Any advice on gybing much appreciated as I occasionally resorted to dropping and tacking around on that long race on the Sunday.

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Done the mainsheet, it's back where it's started. But with that will come failed gybes, most of which occur when the stick gets engaged with the rear mainsheet as the boom comes across which I tend to activate manually, no idea how it's supposed to happen, but in the run up to a gybe in wind, first I look for a wave a la windsurf, then I soak, grab opposite spinnaker, nudge the helm enough to grab the boom and force it over whilst running up the side carrying the spinnaker sheet and reverse locking if it's breezy.
The way I frig around with the wiggle stick gets me into trouble.
 I'd love to have the smoothness of action that guy they showed us in the video has holding it behind his back as he goes up the new side, looked very smooth. My gybes are always clumsy affairs, but they nowadays succeed more than they fail simply because they always used to fail and I've practised them and removing the rear sheeting helped my crap technique.
Oh and  I don't come 'up' on the new side anything like as high as all those boats who were falling over did, so it's a soak to soak gybe then harden up once the spinnaker is full. I think being a light weight you have to respect the power of the kite on either side more than one of greater bulk is able to.



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Any news on the Draycot weekend. Defo need a fix before the winter sets in, if not any other suggestions?? 
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Nice one, busy earning sailing tokens through November, but any chance ill be there.
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Nice one, busy earning sailing tokens through November, but any chance ill be there.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by ChrisC

Hi Graeme,

Upwind I don't think your centre mainsheet set up is doing you any favours here.

My advice would be to go back to the original set up and give sheeting-from-the-boom a try - you will find it is very comfortable and enables very subtle continuous trimming allowing you to keep the boat on the sweet spot.

For me this works really well and I don't use the ratchet (not needed because sheet load is so low) or the cleat. I leave the main cleated in the downwind position and simply let it run out and let go at the bear away.

Any advice on gybing much appreciated as I occasionally resorted to dropping and tacking around on that long race on the Sunday.

Cheers

Chris

Done the mainsheet, it's back where it's started. But with that will come failed gybes, most of which occur when the stick gets engaged with the rear mainsheet as the boom comes across which I tend to activate manually, no idea how it's supposed to happen, but in the run up to a gybe in wind, first I look for a wave a la windsurf, then I soak, grab opposite spinnaker, nudge the helm enough to grab the boom and force it over whilst running up the side carrying the spinnaker sheet and reverse locking if it's breezy.
The way I frig around with the wiggle stick gets me into trouble.

 I'd love to have the smoothness of action that guy they showed us in the video has holding it behind his back as he goes up the new side, looked very smooth. My gybes are always clumsy affairs, but they nowadays succeed more than they fail simply because they always used to fail and I've practised them and removing the rear sheeting helped my crap technique.

Oh and  I don't come 'up' on the new side anything like as high as all those boats who were falling over did, so it's a soak to soak gybe then harden up once the spinnaker is full. I think being a light weight you have to respect the power of the kite on either side more than one of greater bulk is able to.
Ever tried pre-gybing the wiggle stick thing - swing it round forwards so it points at the leeward shroud before the gybe...
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Never many video's of these things going upwind - like all kited single-handers they only ever seem to have the wind coming over the stern quarter!
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Originally posted by JMB1

Ever tried pre-gybing the wiggle stick thing - swing it round forwards so it points at the leeward shroud before the gybe...

Yep, do that, learned that early on, but it's not necessarily the wiggle bit it gets wrapped round, it's the main sticky out bit the wiggle thing is attached to.

First time out on sunday, straight off the beach, plate down, turn round rope wrapped round the lot, really gusty offshore wind, I was lucky not to swim. It has all the elasto fixes, it's just when you're buggering about with lots of mainsheet loose. Tbh it doesn't happen so much in the gybes these days, it's just at other times if your concentration lapses.

Best thing to do is keep the wiggle thing pointed forward, that way the main can't wrap around the other bit.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.


Originally posted by JMB1


Ever tried pre-gybing the wiggle stick thing - swing it round forwards so it points at the leeward shroud before the gybe...

Yep, do that, learned that early on, but it's not necessarily the wiggle bit it gets wrapped round, it's the main sticky out bit the wiggle thing is attached to.
First time out on sunday, straight off the beach, plate down, turn round rope wrapped round the lot, really gusty offshore wind, I was lucky not to swim. It has all the elasto fixes, it's just when you're buggering about with lots of mainsheet loose. Tbh it doesn't happen so much in the gybes these days, it's just at other times if your concentration lapses.
Best thing to do is keep the wiggle thing pointed forward, that way the main can't wrap around the other bit.


I get it everytime I launch but very rarely on the water. Got it in the launching harbour at Parkstone and couldn't steer properly or sheet out, which wasn't nice ! I think on the water I always try to keep hold of the end of the extension no matter how pear-shaped things are going (its like a 'sucky' for moments of panic !). Tried Nick's elastic trick but didnt notice any significant difference other than the elastic broke and got tangled into the mainsheet block ! Might redo with some heavier elastic.

Think I may have found a great solution for the kits sheet tidies - will post on RS100 sailing as soon as I have taken some photos and tested better (uses two bobbles fixed with shockcord and spaced just far enough apart to allow the sheet to be retained but releases easily when hoisting).

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So do you know yet what the format is for the RS inlands for the 100?

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by JMB1

Ever tried pre-gybing the wiggle stick thing - swing it round forwards so it points at the leeward shroud before the gybe...

Yep, do that, learned that early on, but it's not necessarily the wiggle bit it gets wrapped round, it's the main sticky out bit the wiggle thing is attached to.

First time out on sunday, straight off the beach, plate down, turn round rope wrapped round the lot, really gusty offshore wind, I was lucky not to swim. It has all the elasto fixes, it's just when you're buggering about with lots of mainsheet loose. Tbh it doesn't happen so much in the gybes these days, it's just at other times if your concentration lapses.

Best thing to do is keep the wiggle thing pointed forward, that way the main can't wrap around the other bit.
So it is one of the two long dangly bits of string hanging down from the head banging thing that twist around the end of the sticky out bit of stick that is fixed to the steering blade rather than the wiggly bit?  Is it wrapping around the very front end of the sticky out bit just in front of the wiggle stick?
 
If that is right the fix is actually really simple...
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