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ellistine ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 762 |
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There's probably something in that. Are some boats more settled at speed than others? I know full well we've sailed faster in our 4K than the Vago but the Vago made more of a song and dance about it and felt faster. Something about it leaping and the deck being awash with foam squirting out of the centerboard slot. Christ the 4000 doesn't even hum anymore. |
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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Yeah, whatever. Don't forget though that when a hull fully planes, the bow actually drops, so if there were fuly on-it, they'd both be standing right at the back with the hull sitting flat on top of the water (hich it is not). I still don't think it looks anything like as fast as 24kts, just look at how tightly pinned-in the kite is. If it was breezy enough to do that kind of speed, they'd be sailing much more free, but anyway if that's as exciting as a 49er gets when it's flat-out at 24kts, you can keep it. Edited by Skiffybob |
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Slippery Jim ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 09 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 586 |
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Seiko gave them 1500 big ones each so they must have been convinced by the 25 knots speed. Therefore, Bob the corollary of your remark is that the 49er does not fully plane, even at 24 knots. Does that matter? If the bows don't lift as far as some other dinghies, how can one say that the hull is not fully planing? As far as I can understand, what is happening is that the hull is exceeding its (theoretical) speed for displacement sailing. To say anything else is just pure MMM (male member measurement). P.S. I've had a good 18 knots out of my 59er and I wansn't even trying. The bow doesn't lift up high in flat water, 'cos the boat's hull doesn't baulk or squat ( =linear drag curve). (Oops, can opened, worms everywhere). Edited by Slippery Jim |
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Pass the skiff, man!
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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I'm not talking about it being "nose-up". It's simply not fully planing. There's no air under that hull at all. Semi-planing yes, but full "24-knot" planing, NO. Edited by Skiffybob |
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17mika ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 06 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 53 |
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49ers in flat water never lift the bow more than that, due to their hull shape.
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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49ers never look to be going all that fast - but clearly are. I was waiting for an Albacore to appear - planing past them. |
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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We do have a circuit, but it's been pretty-much abandoned this year due to either work-reated, money-related, or family-related problems for a number of the teams. So we've just been turning-up at the odd event or two (like Weymouth Regatta) and having a hoon around. As far as "where do we sail them", ideally on the sea with some waves and a big course (hence we like places like Weymouth and Torquay). |
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ellistine ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 762 |
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Well Seiko were convinced enough to give'em $1500 dollars each! http://www.49er.org/ |
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tickler ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jun 07 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 895 |
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"forum speed" I like that.
Do you have a circuit for these 12 footer things. I saw one at the show a few years ago but where do you sail the thing? |
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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Looks like "Forum Speed" to me. They're not even properly planing. |
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