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    Posted: 13 Jul 10 at 9:15am

Perhaps I am being thick but can someone explain why rule 18 is (apparently) not relevant and not even discussed in ISAF Case 07

http://game.finckh.net/reg_gbr/cases/case07.htm

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Surely rule 18 only applies when one boat is in the zone - which presumably back then (1963?) was 2 boat lengths.  The collision ocurred at 20m out which I imagine was more than 2 boat lengths?
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Originally posted by jlecou

Surely rule 18 only applies when one boat is in the zone - which presumably back then (1963?) was 2 boat lengths. 

The cases are rewritten (or removed as appropriate) when the rules change, which is why you should never rely on an out of date case book.
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eek - I thought it had been updated.  I will check.

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Originally posted by asterix

eek - I thought it had been updated.

I'm not saying that copy is out of date, just saying the opinion - and maybe even facts found - in the case book are updated so the case reflects current rules, so 2bl may be replaced by 3bl and the like...
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actually the I think the case is up to date - it appears in the 2010 case book and hasn't been amended as far as I can see.  It simply fails to specify where the boats are in relation to the zone (and how big the boats are).  A 20 m distance to the mark would be in the zone for boats of 7m and the result (I presume) would be that W was owed mark room and L failed to give it
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As far as the case is concerned I think you can assume the boats aren't in the zone and mark room doesn't apply. After all they don't list all the other rules that don't apply either!
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If the facts do not mention the zone you can assume that it is not relevant to the case. It was not found as a fact that either boat was in the zone.

By the way - the zone is defined by hull lengths, not boat lengths. Bow sprits, bumkins and other antennae do not count!

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