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    Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 12:26pm
Last weekend at the Weymouth Regatta we had a couple of
tight reaches that we're definite no no's for a kite
launch.

However, I just couldn't seem to get the boat going on a
two sail reach (and not for the first time).

What's the general thinking as far as controls when two
sail reaching? Is the kicker supposed to be on or off?
Controlled leach or lots of twist? What about the
cunningham? Our cunningham was jammed on and we did seem
to go better once it was unjammed so that may be part of
the problem.
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What sort of wind speed and chop?
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Any really. We quite often seem to struggle with it. Last
weekend was probably 15+ knts and fairly wavey (for us
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I would say loose kicker, boom near the centreline, when you get a gust the boom will go up and out and is less likely to catch in the water. Bear off a little to get it planing and head up a bit once planing and play the mainsheet loads to keep the boat flat or possibly a small amount of leeward heel.
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Keep kicker on, otherwise when a gust hits your rig will spill the wind and you wont accelerate. Only ease the kicker if you are constantly overpowered otherwise play the sheet and steer to keep the boat flat and moving as fast as possible. Only as you approach the mark where you can bear away should you ease kicker to facilitate a smoother platform for your crew to hoist.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon711 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 6:00pm
I would also suggest that if needing to spill, that the
jib and main are spilled equally. When gust hits bear
away, but, you need to get the balance right that, you do
not bear away too much, that is where the equal spill
comes in. It does take a lot of coordination between
helm and crew, but if you have been sailing together for
a few events you should have that!!

A few weekends ago, we were sailing at Bough Beech when
HUGE gusts and 30 degree windshifts came in, the helm
couldn't feather the boat fast enough, and I was spilling
the jib - a lot is down to feel, and experience at both
ends of the boat...

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Use the Jib and main together easing and bringing them in together. This is difficult and takes practice, but once you get it, you'll notice a big difference in how the boat reacts.

Something else worth trying is pointing up the wave and bearing off on the back of it to accellerate. Don't be to harsh with this though or you'll lose you crew!

I'd say keep some kicker on and loosen the cunningham, don't keep loads of kicker on, just enough to keep the boom flat.

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With those reaches, you needed to ease the kicker just a little to introduce a bit of twist in the main, but not too much. Easing the cunno also helps as you put more power into the main.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ellistine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 11:28pm
Had another impossible reach in tonights race but managed
it a lot better. Had some kicker, but not tight and bore
away in the gusts. Much quicker.

Thanks all.

Have a new question. I'll start another thread.
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good thing for your crew to remember on 2 sail reaches is that he should be playing the jib all the way along as if it was the spinnaker keeping the tell tales flying all the time and dont cleat it
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