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    Posted: 30 Jun 10 at 9:30am

The Albacores are having a bit of a resurgance right now, delivered our 12th boat yesterday since taking it on and have a further nine on order for a September build slot.

As well as the Icon, do not forget the MRX sold by our friends at Welsh Harp, basically a Merlin with no planks..

James, I think it was 22.2 knts not 30...how people exagerate!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 10 at 9:19am

Toby i hope you are taking the piss about the Albs dude!!

They are made by Ovington for a start and celebrate some pretty healthy nationals attendances as well as world and European champs (Not sure if thats proper worlds or just something the class has picked to call a champs)

Still its a big, active class.

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Sorry, I hadn't mrant to hijack the thread, I was just struck by the superficial similarity between the hull shapes (and photo angles). 

I don't think boats like the Firefly and Grad are in the same market niche as the Icon.  I didn't know Albacores were still made?

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Originally posted by RS400atC

Let's hope the market is big enough for the icon, it's about time the no-kite sailors had an alternative to the N12 and the Enterprise.

There are other 2 sailed boats out there...in fact, the market is pretty well served, especially as people choosing a boat without a spinnaker are unlikely to be going for ultimate speed, and established classes have a built in good racing circuit, generally. So with boats ranging from Firefly, Grad and N12 at the small end, through Ents and Tasars to the Albacore for the bigger boned, there is choice, but I think the Icon will offer something a little different, which gives it a chance. Provided enough people who want something a little different don't also want a kite to play with.

I'll certainly be wanting to jump into a demo boat and have a play when it all happens - it would be great to have a fast boat that is truly competitive on small lakes across the weather conditions.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 10 at 10:34pm

Originally posted by tickler

If I made a million (unlikely) I would have somone build a clinker merlin in exposed black carbon with cedar decks. Just think of the carbon weave crossing the stepped planks and the strip decking let into the gunwales, jagged. I have no idea what that is called. All high gloss with red string.

 

Unfortunately, that's not possible, carbon is not allowed in the hull shell of a merlin.

You are allowed to build one from foam/grp planks, one is on its way at the moment, but I'm not sure it counts as an amateur build when it's built by a Turner.

Let's hope the market is big enough for the icon, it's about time the no-kite sailors had an alternative to the N12 and the Enterprise.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tickler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 10 at 9:10pm
If I made a million (unlikely) I would have somone build a clinker merlin in exposed black carbon with cedar decks. Just think of the carbon weave crossing the stepped planks and the strip decking let into the gunwales, jagged. I have no idea what that is called. All high gloss with red string.
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow


so what you're saying Peaky is that after Mike has made the mods
he's thinking about for the NS14  ( icon ) you are going to end up with
a Merlin without a kite!?

that wouldn't be such a bad thing, but 5 stone lighter and a fraction of
the price (and without all the
string!) :-)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote blaze720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 10 at 5:41pm
eer I think that is most definately a NO !  (it is a lot more than just hull !)

But if you have a liberal 14' rule (etc etc) you end up with a fairly standard NS type shape.  Design convergence .... you might also understand why we wanted a bit more volume now over the NS .... and compensated by lengthening the hull by 20cm as we are not tied to particular NS rules.

But maybe you could even say the de-planked Merlin ends up like an MG14 without the trapeze or asymetric ...     Does look very pretty though, not sure the ICON pricing target would handle the number of hours required  !

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Originally posted by Peaky

Spot the difference:



So what you're saying Peaky is that after Mike has made the mods he's thinking about for the NS14  ( icon ) you are going to end up with a Merlin without a kite!?
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Spot the difference:

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