Rule 42

I have tried to protest for rule 42 a few years back, at a really top event, with on the water jury etc.  After the race you had to tell the jury about any protest that you planned to carry forwards, which i did, and he told me it was not a valid protest and that it would have to be done by him rather than another sailor. 

To be honest i didnt believe it at the time either but it is not the only time i have heard of this happening. 

This was a few years back and under the 2000-2004 rules i think.

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by laser193713 I have tried to protest for rule 42 a few years back, at a really top event, with on the water jury etc. Its possible that the the presence of an on the water jury might have made a difference...

Yes everyone stops pumping when the notice the jury boat in the vacinity and start again as soon as their attention moves on to someone else.

The one Worlds I went to gave the jury nice yellow ribs so they were easy to spot.

On the Lark when the battens don't pop, grabbing the spinnaker pole holder on the boom (or the mainsheet block) and giving a short sharp tug will sort them out.

We won't sail on the Thames or do the Merlin De May trophy seriously - it can be won without leaving the Thames - because we keep seeing pumping rewarded with a trophy rather than penalised. We have pointed it out to the race officer but the culprits were his clubmates. It's impossible to sail AND take video evidence so we haven't protested but one day ....

Originally posted by Jon711 Let's put another thought into the mix.... If I tack from starboard to port and the battens don't pop.  The sails will still technichally be set up on starboard, while the boat is on port.  What tack am I on??

See the Definitions

Leeward and Windward A boat's leeward side is the side that is or, when she is head to wind, was away from the wind. However, when sailing by the lee or directly downwind, her leeward side is the side on which her mainsail lies. The other side is her windward side. When two boats on the same tack overlap, the one on the leeward side of the other is the leeward boat. The other is the windward boat.

 Tack, Starboard or Port A boat is on the tack, starboard or port, corresponding to her windward side.

Except when sailing by the lee or directly down wind the tack a boat is on is determined by which side of her hull is away from the wind.

 

Only when sailing by the lee or directly down wind are her sails taken into account, and then the tack the boat is on is determined by the side of the boat on which her mainsail lies.

 

Note that it is the sail, not the boom that counts:  the boom may be across the centreline and the gybe may not yet be complete.  To make the call, umpires look to see when distinctly more than half the sail is across.  The sail can cross while the top batten remains inverted.

 

Originally posted by gordon Doing this once would not break rule 42.2(a).

If you're not having a good day it can take two or three attempts to get the damn battens across...

Lets assume someone protested me.

Facts found (and agreed) are that I had three gos at getting the battens across, after the first two the sail returns to the same (wrong) shape it was before, but that the boat trim etc was so disturbed by this that the boat was not moving as well as it would be if it were sailing normally with the sail correctly trimmed, but some sort of vague impulse from the fan effect was discernable, if not what one would expect from a committed paddle stroke.

Edited by JimC