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    Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 1:13pm
I'd have thought that a Jury alone would not make the difference, but Umpires- using whatever the equivalent of Addenum Q or Experimental Appendix Q was then- would make the difference. It would have been detailed in the SIs for the event.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 1:02pm
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Originally posted by laser193713

I have tried to protest for rule 42 a few years back, at a really top event, with on the water jury etc.


Its possible that the the presence of an on the water jury might have made a difference...

Yes everyone stops pumping when the notice the jury boat in the vacinity and start again as soon as their attention moves on to someone else.

The one Worlds I went to gave the jury nice yellow ribs so they were easy to spot.

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Originally posted by laser193713

I have tried to protest for rule 42 a few years back, at a really top event, with on the water jury etc.


Its possible that the the presence of an on the water jury might have made a difference...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 12:14pm

I have tried to protest for rule 42 a few years back, at a really top event, with on the water jury etc.  After the race you had to tell the jury about any protest that you planned to carry forwards, which i did, and he told me it was not a valid protest and that it would have to be done by him rather than another sailor. 

To be honest i didnt believe it at the time either but it is not the only time i have heard of this happening. 

This was a few years back and under the 2000-2004 rules i think.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 10:49am
when it's so light you can't get the battens across and your fag smokes' going vertical.... there is a great invention, been around hundreds of years and very popular in many parts when the wind is too light for proper racing....



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skiffybob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 10:15am

Surely if the battens don't pop then you get no forward drive out of pumping anyway. The only opportunity to gain from it is on the singe occasion when they do finally pop, so I would think that there's not a problem in how mnay times it takes you to pop them.

A good alternative to pumping them across is to stand up and give the sail a good hard slap/push just in front of the point of maximum draft.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 8:28am
Originally posted by laser193713

no need to retire, rule 42 cannot be protested by
another sailor, !



They can, it's just very hard and would realistically require several witnesses.
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Indeed, sounds like someone has been misinformed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 6:58am
Can't protest rule 42? Eh?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 10 at 4:25am

no need to retire, rule 42 cannot be protested by another sailor, it must be done by the PRO and his team.  Obviously there is a skill to popping battens but you are not breaking a rule in what you are doing. At least not until the PRO says so. 

The best thing though is to expect the battens not to pop and to include the pump in  the tack which is completely legal and you will never have a problem!

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