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    Posted: 17 Apr 10 at 7:29pm

And if you're really lucky you get an extra free gift with the boat - when I dropped the genny this morning mine appeared out of the back end of the sock - an old pair of blue handled narrow nosed pliers! 

There not worth the postage back to RS, but I will hand them over next time I see one of their guys - but own up who lost them then?

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Only managed to get to the club for midday, soI took plenty of time
rigging, buy which time all the wind had gone, so still not christened, but
some interesting rigging lessons.

The spinnaker halyard as delivered is way too long, so i shortened it,
eventually by about 2ft, after which kite (static) seems to fill well and the
take away works well, keeping the cockpit clear of a floppy Halyard.

When rigging there seems confusion about the shrouds. The manual talks
about Ferrules below the spreaders on the 8.4 and above them on the
10.2 (not sure why they should be different?

Addendum to the manual says taped ends are at the top, but if so, you
would need to seriously bend the spreaders upwards. Taped ends at the
bottom with Ferrule underneath on the 8.4 looks right and sets right. A
boat delivered last weekend Had tape on the other end from mine! He has
set them up like mine with his tape therefore at the top......

Nick, perhaps we should have the measurements to the ferules from the
top then we can all be sure which way is up?

The elastic take aways only come out about two feet with the pole out, so
seem to hook the kite. I can understand that these may stretch out in a
breeze, but will this work in the light or is this right?

Boat looks fantastic, lots of admirers and I expect further orders to
follow.

Hopefully tomorrows forecast is wrong

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Anyone any idea what the PY of the 8.4 should be?

I can see a debate about to start already..

They can't both be 1005.
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1014 was what rs have recomended. That is what I am racing off at
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Simon and anyone else wondering the same things.....,

Manual describes where the ferrules go - they are positioned so that you simply slide the shroud through the spreader end when changing from one rig to the other and it is correct to re-clamp when it comes up against the ferrule - IE the spreader is always between the 2 ferrules. 

Sounds like Selden have put the black tape on the wrong end - maybe we should supply a measurement as well.

Unless the rope kits (pre-cut from Kingfisher) have suddenly got randomly longer spin halliards, you will eventually want to buy another one!! If you cut more than 5-6 ins off the standard (17m) it will "bum-cheek" the kite when soaking in the light. Also the kite becomes harder to drop (mainly),and hoist, because there is not enough "slack" so the first and last pulls are really hampered.

Kite sheet retainers should come out far more than that - check again in use, I guess. 

Good sailing!

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Well 1014 would have had me 3rd maybe 2nd, as it was the buggers
made me race in the fast handicap with the Contenderati, the 505's and
470's and gave the Mackerel fleet a four minute start (Slow handicap take
the five as a one minute then go on the four)
Over the water I managed to hold off the 470's and one of the Contenders
although they beat me up the first beat, the kite pulled one of them back
on the offwind legs.

It was very light, 1 -2 and puffed up to maybe an early three at best at
which point the first Contender managed to get a bit further away and I
started swapping tacks with a 470. The big sail might have helped.

We also had quite a tight 1st reach with a negative downwind tide which
had me battling to hold the kite as I closed with the mark.

Over the water I eventually overhauled the Mackerel fleet (for Mackerel
read lasers) which also contained a Supernova and my chum in a Phantom
all on the offwind legs, up wind I'm just about matching them but make a
mistake and they have you back. My normal nemesis beat me by 6 secs
like he usually does in the Blaze and the other laser hot shot a few more
although I did have the delight of taking them apart downwind (whilst
pointing out to them how easily I was doing it, they just love me telling
them).

I was team ibuprofen, the evil breadknife having stuck a pin in the wax
duppy complete with hair and nailclippings of mine that screwed my back
yesterday after a bit of an 'altercation' but it didn't seem to deter the
hiking when I had the wind for it. It remains a joy to race, a delight to
gybe, how good is that without a forestay, it's like a self tacking jib, let
go
with one hand to do the gybing shuffle and chuck the main over and the
spinnakers gone through on its own - joy. Why I even put in a couple I
needn't have just for the sheer poetry of it.

So I got a 4th which is my best single hand result this year so far, two
mackerels and the five oh ahead and if as I suspect I should have been on
1010 or 1015, I'd have been nearer the front, but it doesn't do to wind
em up any more than I do on the water, the fun is in the taking part as
has always been the losers mantra and really I don't even mind losing -
no really - no really, honest, - Whatever...

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GRF - glad to hear your enjoying the boat.

I think a few pics are needed of sailing 100's though guys and gals. Time to do the lottery, so what are Wednesdays lucky numbers......
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So whats the like compared to a 300? Do you still get a tendency to nose dive in big breeze? How about upwind? Can you really feel and see the sail blading off to spill wind? How about in the light, do you still get it come on top of you no matter if your sat to leward with a face full of sail? Has the magic of the 300 been kept but with a more stable (?) platform with an assy?

But surely there must be some niggly bits? It certainly looks smart, well thought out etc, not quite as good as the 300 though  (barring the carbon boom of course)

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Originally posted by tomoore1

So whats the like compared to a 300?



Never sailed the floating toilet bowl, looks way to unstable for use on the
sea, and it hasn't got a kite so would be boring anyway on the fun bit.

Originally posted by tomoore1

Do you still get a tendency to nose dive in big breeze?

Had a few waves yesterday, not a sign of it.


Originally posted by tomoore1

How about upwind? Can you really feel and see the
sail blading off to spill wind? How about in the light, do you still get it
come on top of you no matter if your sat to leward with a face full of sail?
Has the magic of the 300 been kept but with a more stable (?) platform
with an assy?



It feels to me like a sitting down version of a Div 2 sailboard, in the very
light I let it heel to leeward and it scews up, developed a standing up
stance, one foot curled over the rail the other in the well, when it went
really light. Off the line with it like that suddenly sitting down bringing
the rig up to the vertical propelled it forward, probably illegal, but
effective.

The sail does spill wind if you adjust it that way, it's the nicest dinghy rig
I've used to date, almost as good as a windsurfer raceboard rig.

Originally posted by tomoore1


But surely there must be some niggly bits? It certainly looks smart, well
thought out etc, not quite as good as the 300 though
 (barring the carbon boom
of course
)



Only slight niggle, the thin string bits that haul up the kite cut my hand
today, may have to lame it with gloves in future.

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Had some interesting racing over the weekend in a variety of conditions.

Both days we had a light west breeze first thing (9.00am start), which
then died to nothing and came back as a nice sea breeze of about 8
knots.

Had some VERY tight racing and generally found that the 1005 is pretty
fair for the big sail and my average ability.

On Saturday had some tight racing with a very well sailed Laser and a
reasonable Finn on a windward - leeward course (but not enough breeze
for planing downwind). First race I got by 20 seconds, second race Laser
got by 10 seconds after I had a host of kite tangle issues (see below).

Today raced against a sizeable fleet of very well sailed Solos in very light
conditions. First race in ghosting conditions I was first over line but only
just so no good on PY. Second race wind picked up a bit (5 to 8k) and
boat simply took off ! Lead Solo beat me on PY by by 5 seconds but I
was miles in front on the water despite a shocking first beat trying to get
past a solo who was determined to luff me to the point of stalling and I
rounded mid fleet.

Interestingly spent a while farting about with the kite in the very light and
got nowhere. Decided to pack it and just dead run - boy it flies ! Sat on
foredeck with back to mast keeping it dead level and I pulled out 200-
300m on the Solos over a 3/4 mile run ! If it wasnt for the 3 boat length
rule (when did that come in? !) I would have been laughing !

Still getting some niggling string issues. Have shortened kite haliyard by
150mm (max I could do without creasing kite) but still getting it around
shroud end occasionally. Shock cord take up block has a slight tendency
to twist causing the mother of all birdsnests in fast drop - sailed last beat
with only third kite in the sock !

Very interested to hear what mode everyone is sailing upwind. I am trying
to sheet no harder than just pulling the traveller block away from the stop
(although you can go a lot tighter/ higher than this). Also using quite a
lot of kicker and cunningham in virtually all winds to flatten off the top
part of the sail and keep the drive low down. Seems to work well bur as I
have nothing to compare with very keen to hear other experiences.

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