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    Posted: 09 Mar 10 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by ChrisC

Originally posted by G.R.F.



Seriously why would you waste a complete bit of your life hand riveting
some clinker built replica fishing boat from 1732 together and fitting it
with sails.


Seen lurking in the back of the RS factory - a 'one-off' RS100 Wood' - a
special for a Uk customer who plans to sail on the South Coast. Its almost
finished, they just had to pop into town for another bag of copper tingles
to rivet on the side wings ! Apparently the boys are really pleased with the
Sapele foredeck - they reckon the 20 coats of traditional yacht varnish
should be almost tack free by the time it gets to the Uk - but the animal
glue and caulking is going to need a bit of time to dry
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Topped off on the prow with a
mermaid fashioned out of a polished German pork knuckle... Yes I´ve
also seen GRUMPFY-POOS for the first time in real life. Indescribable...
Pass the skiff, man!
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Perhaps people like to sail classes with a bit of history, trophies worth
winning with great competition eg 75 Xods 60 odd Fireflys, same with
the Scorpions at their nationals to name just 3 classes and some
great fun people to race against.

There are some great old and new boats out there shame on you
GRF for having a go at the Firefly. I suggest you have a go sometime
and see how you get on, don't worry they have plastic ones too so you
won't get splinters...
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Great history... Trophies worth winning... Try the I14.

Or the IC for that matter.

Never mind 60 year old one designs.

 
600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318
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I just built a sort of Gothic porch for a customer in wood. It would have been unsuitable in plastic but perhaps a modern porch in plastic would have been OK. There is however something attractive about wood being used in modern design. GRF is highly critical about the use of wood in boats but one wonders how design affects the rest of his life? What does he drive, Audi? Is his house modern, high tech? Plastic chairs? Marcell Bruer? Eames Chair? made of plywood and leather? but still a design classic. Or is he an oak beams man with roses round the door and flagged floors? Heaven forefend that he should jumble it all up, Victorian house with plastic windows and DFS sofas. We need to know these things before we can judge his opinions with any degree of accuracy.
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Edwardian House, (1907) with full blown all plastic double glazing, central
heating plus wood burners, why we've even installed electrickery.. Furnished
old stylee, mainly mahogany, antiquee stuff which is well out of fashion now,
have you seen the pricing of brown furniture these days? Wish it had been
like this when we were being overcharged for all this old 2nd hand junk from
a couple of centuries ago.

Now the home is the province of swmbo, but when it comes to toys, I like
new, and new every year if I could have it that way and the techier the
better.

New toys make up for the loss of faculties..
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These details will help to encourage understanding in our sailing world. I reserve comment on your windows........I  made my own.
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Interestingly GRF you can have a techy wooden boat just as you can
have an old house with underfloor heating if you like. But then I guess
you can have plastic plates which you throw away each time you eat
your ready meals if you want too. There's plenty of room in sailing for
new and old thank goodness.

Go on try Firefly sailing, I dare you, see if you can keep up with the
socials and let alone the competition.
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Guys don't take the bait.

Design is contemporary or not, materials are a choice of the designer and builder.  Wood is not old, any more than carbon is new, perception is as important as the asthetic. 

.... That's why I'd have a nice, low-maintenance, carbon spars, FRP RS100 if I had the dough!
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It's like kids in the playground isn't it?

Go on try this..

Dare you.

It'll make you feel great..

Cept it wont, it'll make you old and decrepit even sooner, you'll lose
whatever charisma you're clinging on to, catch dementia, start peeing
your pants and before you know it you'll be blocking the entire Alexandra
Palace access ramp having forgotten you've even got a trailer on your
ancient Morris Oxford 1957 model or what you're even doing there and
why.

And as for remembering where you last put it..

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Anyway, wasn't it not a "Boat of the show" competion, rather a "concours d'elegance"- nothing to do with performance or design, everything to do being highly polished- in the car world, they're competitions for mind-staggeringly tedious people.
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