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    Posted: 01 Mar 10 at 3:37pm

Not surprised that the boat is barking dog slow when heeled. Look the chines and all that wing churning up the water! I'm surprised you didn't get turned hard a port and thrown. Can't have been that fast then. As for being overpowered with 96 Kg in the nuddy, I can only conclude that you'll need to be developing your 6-pack significantly if you want to go fast.

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"What I found with the mainsail was that it really responded to kicker adjustment
offwind and the slot was critical for maximum speed, a noticeable difference when
both sails worked together... bottom line at this stage is that a well sailed 8.4 will
cream a badly set 10.2 in nearly all winds."

Thanks for the feedback James, you've more or less confirmed what I experienced in the prototypes although I never got the big rig de-powered enough to feel comfortable with. At 78kg I think the times I would use the big sail would be very limited indeed, needless to say I'm going for the 8.4, which I have to say, for me, made the boat feel a lot more "balanced". I think the analogy with the 300 boys and the 600 sailors taming their big rigs could lead some of the lighter guys to think they might do the same in the 100, some might, but when they get to the top mark the 300 /600 boys haven't got another 12.5 of sail to handle, bearaways, hoists and gybes in any breeze may have those guys wishing they'd be a little more conservative on their initial mainsail size choice. Your feedback is welcome and as you have somehow managed to blag the first boat you are now the fountain of all knowledge, and possibly the man to beat at the nats

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Originally posted by turnturtle

... therefore it'd be interesting to see if this is achievable on an RS100.... not convinced yet.

No chance unless you can catch the stern wave of a passing Albacore

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James,

Blimey all this discussion about sail size has now got me quite concerned
!

Im not that heavy (85kg) but had assumed without any hesitation that the
big rig was the one for me - all the present comment is now making me
concerned about this choice !

Most dinghys I have sailed feel underpowered and I have usually found it
very frustrating watching Phantoms pulling away in the light to medium
whilst i am sitting dead-in-the-water.

Most of my sailing in the 100 is going to be in the force 1 to 3 range -
got trapeze boats for recreational sailing when the breeze is up. I am also
aware that it is a very sad fact that most dinghy races in the UK take place
in a F2 !!!

How does the 10.2 feel compared to a Phantom ?

Maybe I need both rigs and then decide ?
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Hi James,

Really appreciate that useful insight, which sort of confirms why I have
chosen the big rig - for the very same reasons as yourself !

Although I live on the coast I am primarily going to be sailing my 100 on
a tidal river estuary for summer evening club racing, which is most
usually exactly as you describe - patchy wind, fading evening breeze,
nip-and-tuck type sailing where generally I get mullered by Phantoms
and Solos.

For sailing on the sea at weekends (currently in a 49er and Vortex
Assymetric) I will either stick to the trapeze boats or get the smaller main.
Have not actually ever sailed a hiking boat yet, but it had dawned on me
that slogging upwind from Torquay to Brixham in a hiking boat probably
not going to be such an easy ride as in the Vortex or 49er !!!

Going to stick with the big rig but maybe get an 8.4 for more all-round.

Really what i am hoping for in the 100 is Phantom type light to medium
performance upwind and some fun (and no kneeling !!) downwind.

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James.. really, you should know better........

I'm just packing up an new 6.6m development sail for you

(actually its a 6.5m feva main ).

NB still an advocate of the 'chose your weapon' rule
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Originally posted by turnturtle


Given the fact that this is your 'evening boat'


James - not quite as pretentious as it sounds. Summer evening sailing on
the river is just my best chance to get on the water and thus i want to make
the most of it. Spent the last 2 years basically 24/7 doing DIY (and going to
work !) with not much sailing.

Might try and sneak a day up at South Cerney once I pick up my boat - looks
similar sort of conditions to what we get on the River Teign - but you dont
get 6 hours on mud at low tide !
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Just to add my 2p's worth to the 'which rig' discussion,
I tried both sizes last November in winds ranging from F2
to F5, and being 6ft, 81Kgs 'bare weight!' I am definitely opting for the small rig.
This went away from my initial 'well it's got to be the
big rig hasn't it?' thought but it does seem in the RS100
case that the big rig is meant for bigger people (no
offence to anyone!).

All I need now is a boat!

Cheers,
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Originally posted by Phil J

Just to add my 2p's worth to the 'which rig' discussion,
I tried both sizes last November in winds ranging from F2
to F5, and being 6ft, 81Kgs 'bare weight!' I am definitely opting for the small rig.
This went away from my initial 'well it's got to be the
big rig hasn't it?' thought but it does seem in the RS100
case that the big rig is meant for bigger people (no
offence to anyone!).

All I need now is a boat!

Cheers,
Phil

Hey Phil,

Love the web site. Some of the London boat show pics are great.

Cheers,

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by SimonW99

James.. really, you should know
better........

I'm just packing up an new 6.6m development sail for you

(actually its a 6.5m feva main ).

NB still an advocate of the 'chose your weapon'
rule


cool beans... open the wind range right up! Any chance I
can nab a Feva kite too... oh yes, and a hacksaw for that
brand new carbon mast!

 

Forget the hacksaw, bring it back to the workshop and I'll get the angle grinder on it for you
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