PY Numbers (again)

Sorry above not very clear - I meant to say that at our club, the laser h'cap is bad against virtually every other well sailed class. But we understand that as a 'primary number', its somehow set in stone and indeed if we suggest it needs raising, then the rest of our returns are somehoow deemed untrustworthy!

what i meant to say about the laser py was that it is ok as an averages boat, never really excelling in any conditions, which should mean that its results are ok over a long series but it will never do well at one off events.

Here's a list of class average placings at the Bloody Mary over the last 8 years. Pick your handicap bandits...

Bloody Mary Average Placings

The fewer entries for each class over the years the less meaningful the average is of course.
Its interesting how very different the number of boats of each class that turn out to the BM (and other major handicap events) is to the relative popularity of the classes when calculated by Champs entries or claimed UK sales. There are links on the page to tables of BM popularity, Champs popularity and UK sales. The UK Sales table, it has to be said, is rather unreliable as much of the data supplied to the RCR is incomplete, inconsistent or just plain missing.

I've included Standard deviation figures on the page: this is an indicator of how varied results are... Most of them are, frankly, statistically fairly meaningless, but I must say that Laser and Laser Radial results suggest that statistically there is a question about their handicap under QM winter conditions. If I were the QM handicapper I would take a good luck at the quality of entry in those fleets... If they have National level sailors coming out and doing no better than that then maybe there is an argument for giving the Laser sailors an increased handicap on that water. I'd probably also have a bit of a think about the I14, National 12 and Firefly handicaps in the other direction. Its interesting actually, because my home club is near QM with similar water, and we have adjusted both Laser and N12 handicaps (we don't have I14s or Fireflies in significant numbers). Maybe Lasers like sea and waves better than N12s?

Edited by JimC

Originally posted by blaze720 It must be a boring afternoon...

Yeah well, someone slid into my parked van and trashed the rear a few days ago, and I don't reckon I could push the motorcycle up the icy hill encumbered with sailing gear, so going to the sailing club is impossible.