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    Posted: 16 Sep 09 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by oz man

Originally posted by Yello Streak

It is in the end the purchasers choice, and as i am one I reserve the right to my opinon and choice.

cant argue with that well i could but i cant be bothered

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Originally posted by oz man

Originally posted by Yello Streak

It is in the end the purchasers choice, and as i am one I reserve the right to my opinon and choice.

cant argue with that well i could but i cant be bothered

I'm not sure what your argument would be and if you truly felt that strong about it why you cant be bothered..

As a Privateer in F18 I have to make the decision on durability and reliability,it might be all very well having the fastest of everything but if it keeps presenting me with large bills in order to keep it going, regardless of the purchase price, its not an option for me.

Put simply, do I fork out £14.5k on something I believe is not up to the job or do I fork out £13.75 on something that I believe is up to the job.. I know where my money is going..

However, just for your information I as I said am a privateer, I've owned Darts, Hobies, Nacra's and even a KL.. I show no allegance to a particular manufacturer  I just spend my money wisely, how I believe is best.. this is a forum asking for advice on what F18 to buy, I offered my opinon on the subject, take it or leave it.. but to be quite honest i don't need to be influenced or enter into an argument by or with someone in the 'proffession' of sailing..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote oz man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 09 at 7:44am

just for the record i i own a hobie tiger and as flattered as i am with your assement of me as someone in the the proffession of sailing i am not and never have been. think you may have me confused with someone else.

i personally found you posts to be unjust and a bit harsh as i said thats why i said i couldnt be bothered to argue with you.

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Yellow Streak, 

What do you think is wrong ?

I think the hull shape and front beam mounting is a big step forward.  Don't like the blocks?  Change them!  I've been sailing cats for 30 years (feck!!!) and I have a setup I like and I replicate this thru boats I sail.  Supplied deck hardware will not suit everyone.  Change it! 

Wanna learn to Ski - PM me..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Yello Streak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 09 at 4:00pm

Yep, exactly..

I've not sailed a shockwave but the results do speak for themselves.. My issue is that for myself I need the reliablility of top quality equipment, the blocks, traveller etc.. If I go out and spend £14.5k on a boat then another £??? on blocks etc.. the cost is adding up.. for me its much better to buy the boat that comes with the kit or at least the majority of it already..

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What are these fittings you don't like? Most companies have come on a long
way in recent years so I can't believe they would be that bad.....?
Unless of course it's R.W.O, in which case I would whole heartedly agree in
staying the hell away.
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Or you could just go up to Rob White, offer him £14.5k for a new Shockwave provided it is fitted out with Harken or whatever is your choice and see where you end up. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Yello Streak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Sep 09 at 10:07pm

Doug, I'm sure the fitting are probably Ok, so I don't want to single them out or indeed name them, but they are definately not Harken, a company who's product i've put unquestioned faith in most if not all my sailing life.. the added bonus of an absolute no quibble replacement warranty on things like ratchets and travellers speaks volume for their product and their service.. I know others offer warranty but none so comprehensive as Harken.

Adrian, what a good idea... I'm lead to believe you can buy the infusion in basic spec (still harken though) for just under 13k and upgrade to a race spec for about £700 more..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote F18 man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 09 at 4:52pm

The problem comes when people get tunnel vision, they find one manufacture they like completely ignore the rest, these are normally the people that get left behind!

There nothing wrong with using the product you trust but if you don't even give the others a chance you may well miss out on something.

Iv used these new ronstan obit blocks and they are amazing!! Light, strong and sexy and with that new traveler like system on the running block you get even less friction. Give them a chance, you may find that they aren't so bad after all.

Anyway do really thinks Rob White and Yves Loday would ready kit out there boats with a load of crap, don't think so!! These guys are the best in the business.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ITA128 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 09 at 5:02pm

I would pre-fer to pay £14500 and get a boat with build quality second to none, rather than £13999 for a boat that what i see isnt the quickest any more.

look at how fast she already is, not nacra 2 years to win

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