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Yello Streak ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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I'm not sure what your argument would be and if you truly felt that strong about it why you cant be bothered.. As a Privateer in F18 I have to make the decision on durability and reliability,it might be all very well having the fastest of everything but if it keeps presenting me with large bills in order to keep it going, regardless of the purchase price, its not an option for me. Put simply, do I fork out £14.5k on something I believe is not up to the job or do I fork out £13.75 on something that I believe is up to the job.. I know where my money is going.. However, just for your information I as I said am a privateer, I've owned Darts, Hobies, Nacra's and even a KL.. I show no allegance to a particular manufacturer I just spend my money wisely, how I believe is best.. this is a forum asking for advice on what F18 to buy, I offered my opinon on the subject, take it or leave it.. but to be quite honest i don't need to be influenced or enter into an argument by or with someone in the 'proffession' of sailing.. |
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Yello Streak ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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cant argue with that well i could but i cant be bothered |
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Yello Streak ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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It may be harsh but its my opinion based up on what I've seen. The Shockwave uses what I consider to be substandard fittings for an F18, I can only assume that this is because of cost. Yes its a fact of life that a boat like a F18 will be more at risk of breakages due to the power and rig loading, I'm not saying that other manufacturers boats avoid this, its just as I said in my opinon better to have the best gear on the boat to minimize that potential race loss or worst still RNLI moment.. It is in the end the purchasers choice, and as i am one I reserve the right to my opinon and choice. |
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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very harsh assment there yellow streak. the infusions have had there troubles as have the wildcat if you race anything hard with that amount of power in the rig things break its a fact of life. white formular have a proven track record of building good solid cats as have hobie and nacra |
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Yello Streak ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
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I'm sure the results are speaking for themselves but my impression of the Shockwave was 'Built to a budget', true, everything has a marketable price but on F18s and I've owned 2 I would not compromise cost for quality.. I feel in my own opinon this is exactly what the shockwave does. Cheap bits give up... usually when its least convinient..
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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So f18 worlds are over what did the results tell you in the end nacra and shockwave tied on points at the top nacra wins buy number of firsts if the leading wildcat hadnt been black flagged in the last race there would have been a three way tie for first place between three different boats (shockwave,wildcat,infusion) Hope waiting for the results before deciding which boat to buy has given you the info you need to make your purchase and start racing. |
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yeatesey ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Mar 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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I own the only Wildcat in the UK, and it is awesome! We have sailed the capricorn and nacra and I have owned 2 Tigers. This boat trumps the lot. Hobie have really made a big effort to get the boat to work well out of the box and they have pulled it off. A massive improvement on the Tiger. The design is the best bit about it, firstly it is the most fun to sail, (forget winning races this is the most important bit) it steers beutifully and it goes upwind like a rocket. We lead a race from start to finish at its first TT the other day against Hugh Style fresh from his Eurocat win, and we literally pulled it out the box and it started winning!! We went on the win another race by the end that is 2 out of 6!! Never would have managed that in my previous boat. Maybe we have all of a sudden got loads better at sailing or maybe the boat is just faster!
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Wee Man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 214 |
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There's a Shockwave for sale on F18 site www.f18.org.uk
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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have no idea where the info on the wildcat started or if its true but lots of new boats have teething problems you would have to be pretty naive to think they would be perfect straight away. Your comparison to the car industry is also not a good one pretty much every new design car has recalls,they dont often get it right first time despite spending millions developing new cars.
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