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gary145 
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 Topic: Which Cat for lightweights?Posted: 18 Sep 07 at 6:26pm |
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ive sailed an SL, good boat, needs controls sorting to make it better. pitchpoled several times I prefer a cat with boards like Spitfire, climbs upwind much better. |
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sailor_420
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Posted: 18 Sep 07 at 9:08pm |
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Yeah is the SL16 a youth boat? Out of the Spitfire 500 and SL16 which would be the hardest to pitchpole. Also whats the lowest i could go with crew weight? Thanks again! |
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 8:22am |
Sailor_420, Don't get too obsessed with Pitchpoling, yes, it happens, treat it like a right of passage !
If you are really looking for a non-pitchpoling platform, toy need a long boat or a boat with T foils. Bet even these will go eventually ! There may be the odd Stealth F16 floating around, or maybe an old Stealth R (which would be cheaper as it is not a fully optimised F16). Both come with T's as standard. Edited by Scooby_simon |
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Stuart O
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 9:32am |
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Hey Scooby you love your T-Foils!!!!! Sailor_420 Sccoby is right pitchpoling is one of those things you do...... Seen spitfires pitchpole like the best of them, just go to youtube!!!! |
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 10:01am |
I do indeed, they are the Dogs bits ! |
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catmandoo
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 10:32am |
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he's right , sailed with t foils for 2 1/2 full seasons in ALL winds , theys the "cats Nadgers " not even a near pitchpole . as Scooby says though it aint garaunteed , only garauntees in life are taxes and ending up toes up !
but like folks say pitchpoling dont happen that often , nothing like the frequency of mono capsizing , just usually puts an end to your competitive race in a cat , because of time to get back up relative to the speed your oppos are travelling at . If as you say the cats you saw were sailing in force 8 to 9 gusts !!!!!! I'm suprised they were even attached to the water long enough to pitch pole F8 - 9 would see most boats being blown across the water like tumbleweed , I wouldn't worry about performance in these conditions , you will rarely if ever get caught in them Don't let pitchpoling put you off , modern skiffs go "down the mine " a lot more frequently than modern cats and its all part of the game
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sailor_420
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 6:48pm |
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Oh good. Which cat would be the best for a youth team aswel. Because occasionally i sail with someone whos about 60 kgs making us 110 all up. (almost every junior at my club sails on the laser or oppy circuit so no time for 420s etc). Also would a cat be good as a starter to 2 wire sailing? Thanks. |
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gary145
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 6:55pm |
Spitfire is longer and will be harder to pitch than the SL, havnt tried the 500 but the hulls look like they have a lot of volume which helps. dont worry about going down the mine, when you are used to your boat you may then start going out in winds where it could happen, but by then it wont worry you more important is where and who you sail against and cost / resale etc. as your skill improves you can manage with less weight, there are some very light Tornado crews!
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gary145
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 7:00pm |
well the SL is the next youth cat and therefore better for youth events I guess. You will not find a better intro to twin wiring than a cat, they do not punish mistakes as much as a skiff and even the unfit of us look good |
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Worthy
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Posted: 19 Sep 07 at 11:08pm |
Are you sure?? The spitfire is 16ft long, and by the name so is the SL16. There may be a difference in length but it will be negligible. |
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