Supernova 30

   Some of the figures I've heard for restoring a 1/4 tonner are in line with new-build costs for the closest modern equivalent, a Corby 25. 
Which leads to the question of whether a new-build 1/4 tonner to the original hull lines but keel/rig etc optimised for IRC would be viable...... would it be allowed out to play with it's forebears?

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Ian Watson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Watson Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Supernova 30 Posted: 14 Jul 09 at 9:17am
	Some of the figures I've heard for restoring a 1/4 tonner are in line with new-build costs for the closest modern equivalent, a Corby 25. Which leads to the question of whether a new-build 1/4 tonner to the original hull lines but keel/rig etc optimised for IRC would be viable...... would it be allowed out to play with it's forebears?

laser193713 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser193713 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 09 at 10:23pm
	That IRC rating doesnt seem too far off, Anchor Challenge (Peter Mortons new quarter tonner) rates at 0.922 I think, but that has been very seriously modified with a huge rig. Our Bolero with standard rig but more modern sail plan now rates 0.869 which is low for a 1/4 tonner now, but that is achieved on nothing near the budget of some of the boats out there!

detente Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 04 Mar 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote detente Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 09 at 12:14pm
	Just one point Smiffy has been radically modifyed over the past few years and does not look like the origional half tonner that rolled out of the shed all those years ago....

Ian Watson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Watson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 09 at 9:13am
	Cheers Garth Had a look at the pictures of her & she's looking very good- would be tempted if I didn't have other commitments! Smiffy was also looking very tidy when I saw her last weekend at Levington marina. (Though both would look better in their original colours/stripes!) On the subject of one-off Stephen Jones half-tonners,does anyone know the whereabouts of either 'The Goodies' (1978?) or 'Boadicea' (1979).

garth weaver Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 09 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote garth weaver Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 09 at 8:41pm
	Demolition is for sale in Cornwall with a nice set of kevlar laminates. We have raced against her and she is still pretty competitive under IRC - see results of Dartmouth 2008. Don't worry I'm not on commission.

Ian Watson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Watson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 09 at 11:17am
	Hi Just to add to Nigels comments (Hi Nigel) I believe there were 4 boats built from the Supernova tooling, 'Supernova' herself being the first with a distinctive heavily cambered deck rather than a coachroof . She was followed by 'Casanova' which had a conventional moulded coachroof and iirc a masthead rig (she was at Poole YC a few years back, white hull/yellow stripe). Then came the best known 'Smiffy' which was 3/4 rig and had a revised stern for the '78 Half Ton Cup in Poole, and finally 'Demolition' in 1981 when the HTC was again in Poole, she lost the distinctive stem profile of the earlier boats. HTH

Nigel Theadom Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nigel Theadom Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 9:10am
	I am pretty certain that you will get lots of help from Stephen Jones who, from your description designed and probably helped to build 'Supernova' a masthead 1/2 tonner - the original at least had a distinctive deck. Supernova was a forerunner to 'Demolition' and Smiffy and then the Hustler 32. A Masthead Hustler 32 which I presume to have similar dimensions rates about 0.910. If possible ditch the dolphin which is probably still located in the bow for the IOR rating.

Dave Hardy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave Hardy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 08 at 8:09pm
	Thanks Gareth, That is really useful and intersting info. I did get a reply from the owners of Demolition which also helped to build a sort of picture. As for the sale am going off the idea unless the seller drops the price, too much work to do and money to spend Thanks again
	Dave Hardy

garth weaver Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 09 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote garth weaver Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 08 at 7:06pm
	Demolition races against us (Projection 762) at the Helford River Sailing club (google for website). A nice half-tonner with IRC rating of 0.927 - reasonably well optimised I would suggest. She competed in Dartmouth this year with some success, but not as competitive as Per Elise, Falmouth half-tonner, who was 2nd in 2007 Half-Ton Cup.

Stefan Lloyd Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stefan Lloyd Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 08 at 6:41pm
	You mean next Saturday! Had me worried there for a minute. I obviously found an old figure for the S/33. Bandit rating now! Never mind, we'll show them our transom.