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    Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 7:13pm

Getting a degree is not like school you can go at any time I had nearly a five year gap, during which time I was mostly sailing (sadly not quite at Olimpic level) between school and uni and I don't think that it did me too much harm. Not sure that I added much to the topic but the idea that uni is just for 18 year old dose kind of get on my nerves.

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

but what happens if you sail full time and do not "make it" and you do not have a degree etc to fall back on ?

 

You don't need a degree in life!

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I'd go to Uni if someone was paying me to sail.

Just think, the longer you can keep getting money from them, the better!

For you anyway

I didn't bother with Uni, but to be honest, I dont think I will. Not even if I was payed to go. I'm doing a decent full time job, and am getting a head start over all those who are wasting time / money going to Uni.


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Likewise, uni isn't that important... experiance is far more so, especially in industry

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"experiance is far more important"

Well yes, but these days in a lot of lines of work you are unlikely to get that first job in order to gain the experience without a degree.

Thirty years ago 10% of people went to uni and the vast majority of jobs were available to people without degrees. The situation today is rather different given that around 50% of people are entering the job market with degrees.

 

 

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That can be said for people with degrees i have friends which left uni 5 years ago, and struggled to get decent jobs, a degree isnt what it used to be.  Remeber you can get degrees in some sh*te subjects now!  I started work after doing my a-levels, i could of got in to uni but decided i would only go for the wrong reasons (booze and women)  While some of my mates where spending 3-4 years at uni studying, i got a job got paid etc. worked myself to where i am now.  The funny thing is some of my ffriends that went to unis and got PROPER degrees are still earning LOADS less then i am!
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alot of people dont get the  reconsion they deserver, people that cant get the time to go to big events.. i find this my self i cant get down to where there is big events and even if i could it would be probs 1-2 regattas a year.

 there should be more selection of places that big events come to, on the moray firth theres no where to race and even if there was no 1 would notics
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Originally posted by Merlinboy

That can be said for people with degrees i have friends which left uni 5 years ago, and struggled to get decent jobs, a degree isnt what it used to be.  Remeber you can get degrees in some sh*te subjects now!  I started work after doing my a-levels, i could of got in to uni but decided i would only go for the wrong reasons (booze and women)  While some of my mates where spending 3-4 years at uni studying, i got a job got paid etc. worked myself to where i am now.  The funny thing is some of my ffriends that went to unis and got PROPER degrees are still earning LOADS less then i am!

I'm guessing you wouldn't have been going to Uni to study English!

Your right in some respects, Uni was always supposed to be the pinacle of academic achievement and around 15% of people attended.  There's very little point in 50% of people having degrees if the only 15-20% of jobs are 'graduate jobs'.  However since everybody seems to be getting a degree if you choose not to get one I think you need to be able to offer something else to a potential employee. 

ps. Don't get me started on the lack of science and engineering graduates.

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Lack of graduates?  Then why is it so hard for science graduates to get a decently paid (or any job?) even when they have a phd?

I think most science graduates are awaiting the day this shortfall kicks in and they are in demand and get paid properly!

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

Originally posted by Jon Emmett

but what happens if you sail full time and do not "make it" and you do not have a degree etc to fall back on ?

 

You don't need a degree in life!

 

Depends what you want to do.

 

Working in The City, most job specs start "Degree educated".....

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