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redback 
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 Topic: Ejecto HookPosted: 25 Jul 07 at 10:05pm |
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I've always thought them a danger. In my experience the less buckles, clips, catches and pieces of string the less to get caught up on inadvertently. If there is simply one hook you know what you must be hooked with in the rare event that you accidentally get hooked.
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hurricane
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 10:57pm |
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my magic marine quick realise hook has caused so much problems in the past 2 months It almost came undone whilst going round texel without me pulling the string (not impressed) So I cut the string to stop this happening again At the next event I checked my hook as I always do before going out to notice the hook had partially come undone again - NOT GOOD I am changing back to a non quick realise hook for safety! |
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lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
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Medway Maniac
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Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 8:15pm |
The hook is made of stainless steel, and apparently needs to be that thick, as a lardy boy bent a thinner one. There are various versions available besides the spreader bar, including one for the Banks skiff harness. Banks are or were at one time offering them as original equipment (albeit unadvertised - the market is so small). I 'encouraged' my crews to adopt it mainly to preserve the boat's topsides having suffered from damage from a conventional hook on my Winder Fireball, but the non-tangling aspect is a serious benefit - I nearly copped it myself once while righting an old FD (the hook locked onto the gunwale lip so that the boat came over on top of me while I was still stuck there, pinning me under water). Another time, my crew's conventional hook got hooked on the underwater shroud in a capsize... scary. I'm not at all convinced by the releasable hooks. Besides wrecking your topsides, I've also heard they can be tricky to release under load.
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Graham T
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Joined: 09 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 123 |
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 1:46pm |
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We lent our Magic marine harness to a newcomer so he could try trapezing - I don't know if he had messed with the release whilst putting it on but it did let go in the middle of a race whilst he was flat out! The moral is always check the pin is fully in before going afloat.
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 12:58pm |
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Why bother with any of them.
You are about 1000 X more likely to die going to the sailing club in your car. Nanny state = Marketing opportunity. |
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Skiffman
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Joined: 27 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 291 |
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 10:50am |
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QR hooks are absolutly rubbish, the RWO version is the best out of them but it is still crap. The problem with them is that they just seem to release the hook for no reason or if the hook stays in the its normally really hard to actually get it to release. I have one harness with and one without, but I do not find it a problem because i never take my hook out so i imagine that it would not come out if i needed it to anyway. It would take me less than a minute to take my harness off but i suppose when something happens on the water and you think that your hook might be stuck you just need to get you harness off straight away but thats probably not what you are thinking of at the time.
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simsy
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 6:50am |
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Ive had my P&B harness with QR hook for over a year now and havent had a problem with it.
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k_kirk
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Joined: 09 May 06 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 172 |
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Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 5:16am |
First time I'm seeing this design. Thanks for posting. I use the Bethwaite Keyball on my 29erXX and am generally happy. The issue is when others sail with me and have their own harnesses or when I need to sail with others on their boats with the ring. Looks like this design incorporates the best of the Keyball approach while remaining compatible with the %9x of the trap boats out there. Is the spreader made from an alloy or plastic/carbon etc? |
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29er397
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Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 12:39pm |
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had my harness for 6 months and had no issues with the quick release, but its there, just incase!
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mike ellis
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Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 12:13pm |
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i have a magic marne harness with a QRH, its never failed on me (yet, touch wood) and the mechanism looks reliabe enough, it has a ball on the end of the hook with 2 holes drilled through it, the hook fits into a tube on the spreader bar with a spring in it with 2 holes on either side of the tube. then you put a big, 2 pronged pin through the cylinder and hook and it has a metal retainer so the pin cant come out easily. takes a fair tug on a piece of string to release it and the string is tidied up by velcro so it looks safe.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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