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    Posted: 18 Oct 12 at 11:16am
I think you ought to rephrase that last sentence, you naughty boy!
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Thanks for the advice everyone. Much appreciated.

As I am quickly learning, it is the accumulation of the small things that makes the difference.  I am looking forward to Saturday now to have a little tinker.
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what you have on the mast is an adjustable gooseneck, common on gps of that age.  What's most important is making sure the sail is at the top of the mast before tightening the gooseneck.  If you are to then position it as if it were a downhaul/cunningham then you'll find you never want it too tight.  You'll only want to get it tight in the windiest of conditions.

As far as the other controls are concerned, if you're using the boat regularly why not offer to fit some better cleats etc?  Second hand fittings can be bought cheaply on ebay, or if you offer to do the work, maybe the club will buy them for you?  An outhaul can be rigged on the boom, laster style, and leading a doublke ended kicker out to the thwart doesn't take that much kit.  If there are lots of other gps around simply copy one of them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Steve411 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 12 at 4:52pm
When we used to sail a Mirror as kids and we couldn't adjust the kicker on the course we used to set it before the start by sailing on a close reach and pulling enough on so the top telltale was flying about half the time. It probably meant the kicker was a bit loose upwind and a bit tight downwind but was the best compromise.
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The answers are probably yes, yes and yes. You do tend to slacken off some reaching and running, usually more running, you do tend to allow more slack in different conditions, and you normaly keep it moderately tight.

The easiest way of judging how much is with leech tell tales. These are ribbon streamers, usually on the batten ends. If your boat doesn't have them maye sew them on. The info on how to read them is all over the place.
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Thanks for the reply Rusco.

The GP does have rear transom sheeting and I have picked up on the way that sheeting in tight when beating upwind does pull the boom down and tighten the leach of the sail.  However, when heading across the wind or going on a downwind run the boom will lift up as far as the kicker allows as the sheet is let out.  What I am trying to understand is how far should it be allowed to lift in different conditions.

Do I allow the kicker to slacken off when reaching/running?  Do I allow different amounts of slack in differing conditions?  Do I always keep it fairly tight?

And I am still trying to figure out how far to pull the boom down before locking it off.  I guess it is sort of like a Cunningham that has to be preset before setting sail?
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Hi,
I can try and answer this one for you.  It sounds like the boat has very basic rig controls, as such i would not worry about changing too much whilst you are out sailing, the difference marginal changes in control and rig set up make pale to insignificance when you sail the wrong way up a beat.  The kicking strap tension will depend on the sheeting arangement for the mainsail.  I would guess on a GP that age it has rear transom sheeting, if this is the case i wouldn't use huge amounts of kicker.  As when you tighten the sheet you are tightening the leach of the mainsail.  I wuld use just enough so the boom doesn't sky as you tack and so your leach tell-tales flow nicely off the back of the sail.  In terms of outhall, i would have this fairly tight inland in light winds.  having it too lose will mean you have too much depth and the wind will strugle to move across the main.  I would also check you jib sheeting angle before you set off, ideally you want the genoa leach to match the profile of the main when close hauled.
 
I am sure someone will disagree with what i am saying but thats how i would look at setting the boat up.
 
For me the most important thing whilst small lake sailing is getting a good clean start and sailing the right way up the beat, keeping my head out of the boat and looking for wind shifts.

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I have been cutting my teeth by learning to sail in a GP14.  I have been sailing solo since around March this year and would like some advice on setting up the boat to get the best out of it prior to me buying a boat of my own.

First, a bit about the venue.  We sail on a fairly small inland lake and set up different courses each week depending on the prevailing weather conditions on the day.  There are about 5 or 6 boats racing at any one time, mostly GPs.  We sail on a saturday afternoon and the wind tends to die off at around 1430hrs and usually picks up again around 1600hrs.

The club boat I tend to taker out is an older style, GRP hull with wooden trim, seats, tiller, centre board, etc and aluminium mast and boom.  I tie the two jib ends together to make it easier to keep control of the jib as I tack and gibe around.

The only real control that can be adjusted 'on the move', apart from the mainsheet and jib, is the kicker.  The boom is pulled down and locked in place on the mast with a thumbscrew and the outhaul is set and tied off before the boat is launched.

What I would like to get my head around is what is the best way to rig the boat prior to launch for differing wind conditions in order to be more competitive?  How much tension do you put on the boom before locking it off to the mast?  Same for the outhaul?  When do you tinker with the kicking strap?

Is there anything that can be done 'on the fly' to change the boat handling as the wind dies out during the afternoon?
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