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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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winner ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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I made a hiking bench for a finn and ok dinghy mixed a couple of months back using the deadrock design but just changed the height and deck width and shape to be like the finn and ok sidedecks. Works really well and has helped my hiking style and in-durance alot, you would need to use it for about an hour a week at least to get the best from it, also a good thing is to implicate your wave technique where you move your weight onto your back leg and hike harder up the wave and at the crest and move it back to both legs on the way down. Also a good thing to do is to rig up a rope with resistance similar to a loaded up main and replicate sheeting in and going to the hiking position, i found this really helped with boat handling on the start line and with mark roundings, furthermore it also helped build up the strength in my hands,wrists and arms. Good luck with the build as they are worth it, if you use it enough.
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Ginge ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 28 Dec 11 Location: Isle Of Axholme, Doncaster Online Status: Offline Posts: 117 |
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That's what I'm planning on using. I just want one as hiking is the only way of replicating hiking, as you can't always be sailing |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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I do quite an extreme amount of cycling, and it just doesn't translate. If you had no leg fitness at all, then it probably would help, but if you're already fit and you want to be able to hike hard for 20 minutes at a time, you need to train the kind of static/hold strength that hiking requires. Cycling is dynamic. You also need to work your abs. Hiking bench is exactly what you need! If you have bad posture or technique, then you'll injure yourself. Same as you will if you have bad posture on the bike, or when you're doing weights. If I could sail for three hours a day then I would, but I can't, so rather than losing both technique AND fitness, the bench allows me to just lose technique :P |
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deadrock ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 85 |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Sailing is better generally, but we can't all go sailing every day.
I'm thinking of knocking up a hiking bench for a couple of reasons: 1) we can go for weeks with not much hiking, then have a 2 mile beat in F5. 2) It would allow me and crew to play around with toestrap settings in a constant environment, and check the settings we come up with are the most useful for constant hiking. Normally, I race thinking about other things than 'are the toestraps right' until it becomes really obvious they are badly wrong. When I'm trying to hike out extra hard in a gust, I usually have a lot else to do than think about whether the crew's straps should be longer or just moved outboard a bit. I guess on a Laser there is only one variable though. |
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Cameron Winton ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08 Nov 11 Location: Prestwick Online Status: Offline Posts: 41 |
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I would advocate getting out and sailing. I am back to sailing after 25 years, reasonably fit (Long term runner, 5-a-sides, cycling to work) and at the start of the season found my thighs suffering seriously for a few days after each decent length sail. Now finding the legs a lot better although yesterday's light airs found me scrunched up at the centreboard and my right knee locked up twice!
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ASok ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
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Why not just do quad excercises? The easiest one is cycling or you could do squads?
My concern with hiking benches other than the insane boredom is that they could accentuate bad habits and accelerate knee damage. You'd need to be pretty committed to ensure you were always hiking in the correct way otherwise you are going to the damage quicker. For example long distance running on a treadmill could emphasise any bad habits that you may have in your running technique. Just pounding away for hours could just keep repeating an action that is doing damage. This might not be so noticeable out in the real world as the ground is not perfectly flat and your action will be adjusting to your environment. Notice the lots of 'shoulds' and 'coulds' in what I am saying. Its just my opinion. I am not a personal trainer or doctor, just a slightly overweight guy that takes an interest in trying to keep fit and shed weight. ![]() I'm a big advocate in avoiding gyms and getting outside for fitness. I also think that the best way of getting better at something is actually going to do it. The hiking bench doesn't simulate the fact that the object you are hiking off is not laid out flat in your front room and is actually moving up/down/left/right and pitching...all at the same time. |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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Boring - yes. Effective - yes. If you can't sail every day then there's nothing better for your hiking fitness. You need to do general fitness as well, but general fitness on its own is not effective for hiking endurance in my experience.
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ASok ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
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I can't think of anything worse than a hiking bench. Boring boring boring. Even the most committed must use it a few times then cast it aside.
I think you' be much better of focussed on improving general fitness - running, cycling, kicking a ball? |
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