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    Posted: 09 May 12 at 2:04pm
Hi Rupert
I know not plastic but the v3000 formerly laser 3000 would be an option.
It has been greatly improved by Jeff and other people have said it is now a good boat for teenagers.
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The 200 and 500 are certainly on my mind, but certain experience with them suggests that whilst they are lovely boats to sail, they may not be robust enough for club boats? I would like to be wrong about that, as they are both a huge amount of fun to sail for lighter weight people.

We have privately owned L2000's taking part in the sessions, and they are pretty close to being right, but just seem a little on the big side for kids who are still growing.

We did have a club 29er, but the upkeep was fairly expensive, and the jump to sailing it too big for young sailors who weren't aiming for glory, but to have plenty of fun in a slightly more controlled manner. I sailed several times and found it surprisingly managable, mind - certainly not a monster.
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I was going to say 200 too, and if you really want a trap but a more stable, less 'skiff/squaddie' approach, then RS do offer the 500 as a viable 'step-up' from the Feva.
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AS somebody who made the move from Fevas to 29ers I fully support it...we learnt on Bough Beech,which isn't exactly an easy place to read the shifts and gusts/lulls...the other route found worked was into the 200, where everything is kept simple and it can be sailed in precisely the same way as a Feva.
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Originally posted by Rupert

The gap I'm currently thinking is there is for a rotomoulded junior boat for teens to move to after the Feva - the RS boats jump to the Vision, which is far too big, Topper's offerings either seem to be aimed at the Feva market or are again too big. Does the Vago fit the slot?

Otherwise, they end up in 420's (nice boats, but a step back in time, and up in complexity, and a pain to look after for a junior group) or are expected to leap into 29ers, which on a small and gusty lake means spending a lot of time swimming.

Any ideas? Seems that it would be a similar market to Nessa's 1 or 2 person boat?


Not rotomoulded, but RS200, L2000,  also the Vago,

You mention 'youth group', so I suppose this is the point where group-owned boats diverge from individually owned boats where kids might start looking beyond their local club and onto open meetings etc.
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No- the Q'Ba is a single hander with an optional jib (direct Pico competitor), the Feva is a double hander than can be sailed 1-up. They're pretty much the same size (the Q'ba is slightly shorter with a slightly bigger main)
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Hi Rupert
is that market not ment to be filled by the Qba?
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The gap I'm currently thinking is there is for a rotomoulded junior boat for teens to move to after the Feva - the RS boats jump to the Vision, which is far too big, Topper's offerings either seem to be aimed at the Feva market or are again too big. Does the Vago fit the slot?

Otherwise, they end up in 420's (nice boats, but a step back in time, and up in complexity, and a pain to look after for a junior group) or are expected to leap into 29ers, which on a small and gusty lake means spending a lot of time swimming.

Any ideas? Seems that it would be a similar market to Nessa's 1 or 2 person boat?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote simonrh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 12 at 8:36am
Originally posted by RS400atC

 
Isn't that business as usual ;-)

Maybe a little.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 12 at 8:30pm
I used to sail a Marauder on my own including flying the spinnaker....mind you wouldn't try in anything above a force 2
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