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ASok 
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 Topic: The RYA will boycott another Olympics?Posted: 25 Apr 12 at 8:51am |
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......but then the games will be over and you'll lose any of the games hook that you are using to gain publicity now?? Literally no-one would be interested in your cause if this wasn't an Olympic year as people's attention would be drawn to other sailing matters.
I think times have changed since 1980. The world, media and politics are a completely different place now. As mentioned above - look a F1 - their organising body are now happy to send the teams into potentially dangerous places regardless. No political influence there - just cash and sponsors!
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Colin Simonds
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 11:13pm |
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There is no intention or plan to call an EGM until the games are over if at all - I agree - to have one in the lead up to or during the Olympics would be poor timing- in fact as yet we hope an EGM will not be necessary.
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Colin Simonds
One of 12 Winners of 1980 Olympic trials - but RYA Boycotted the 1980 Games. Founder member 2012 Anti RYA Boycott Group. Petition website www.nomoreRYAolympicboycotts.com |
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alstorer
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 10:40pm |
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If voting papers are sent out, I can see most members being utterly apathetic on the matter- so if you're able to mobilise enough support within the membership, it may well be that a majority of returned papers could come down in your favour.
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sargesail
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 9:34pm |
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Go for the EGM or put up. I'll now to be self-censoring on this issue. It may only take 50 votes to get an EGM, but 500 is still a drop in the ocean of RYA membership.
I value the RYA's ability to take a stand, do not wish it to spend political capital by not complying with a boycott if asked and deplore your timing which could be a distraction from the business at hand - the Olympic Games. And I also see this as a classic case of the influence of a vocal minority having the potential to have an excessive impact, as a result of its ability to draw on modern media......but perhaps I shouldn't worry.......500 just isn't very many, and illustrates that this is not really grabbing attention.
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Colin Simonds
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 3:13pm |
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I am in no hurry on this call- and times and people change
If we do an EGM it will likely be a ''once'' event ( unless they make the result undemocratic eg mail the membership with their views and pleas asking for support, and do not allow us equal access - censoring our advert is state of this - but there are other rags we can use that many member read) Personally I would not call one without the support of most or all the 1980 ''team'' and as a last resort. There are motions we can put that we will or should win and some that will be harder - we need and have easily the 50 members to require an EGM - we are close to 500 votes on our web site.
Thanks for your interest and comments
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Colin Simonds
One of 12 Winners of 1980 Olympic trials - but RYA Boycotted the 1980 Games. Founder member 2012 Anti RYA Boycott Group. Petition website www.nomoreRYAolympicboycotts.com |
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rogue
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 2:31pm |
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I think you should do what needs to be done to call the EGM- that is the official process for airing your grievances. However if you already acknowledge you are likely to lose, really what is the point?
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Colin Simonds
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 1:39pm |
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You may be right about BOA but for the record in 1980 BOA offered to support us to go without the RYA money and blessing if the RYA would confrim to them in writing that we/others were the selected boats, but despite winning the trials the RYA refused to write that letter and confirm any selection.
Yes the RYA who are primarily a cruising association with no experienced top racing people on the council see I fear Racing as a whole as a sub issue at best
Of course if we call an EGM they will have to send out our circular and proposed agenda and motions to all members, so I wonder if they now are pushing us into this. 60-40 they would win a vote - but at least it gets the case aired properly
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Colin Simonds
One of 12 Winners of 1980 Olympic trials - but RYA Boycotted the 1980 Games. Founder member 2012 Anti RYA Boycott Group. Petition website www.nomoreRYAolympicboycotts.com |
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rogue
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 1:30pm |
no not really. I can quite understand why from a communications perspective why they wouldn't allow advertising that could do more harm than good, especially for something they may see as a 'non issue'. |
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 11:09am |
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Hi Colin.
I understand your feelings about this, but I think as the F1 showed this weekend if there is a decision to be made I think it will go over our heads, and will be made by the BOA with pressure from the government.
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Colin Simonds
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Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 11:02am |
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I thought I would add an update here that shows the RAY attitude to this matter
We asked the RYA magazine for a half ppage of PAID space tp put our case to the members, as we have not been allowed to go and put our case and other issues to the council or even discuss it with the executive.
They have censored our advert and will not allow it to be published even though they have not even seen it yet.
We are RYA members and life long sailors and they want to silence our views because they do not agree with doing what most athletic bodies have done years ago- and given any boycott decision - other than of course boycott by law - to the athletes.
Shame on them?
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Colin Simonds
One of 12 Winners of 1980 Olympic trials - but RYA Boycotted the 1980 Games. Founder member 2012 Anti RYA Boycott Group. Petition website www.nomoreRYAolympicboycotts.com |
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