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JimC 
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I don't think I need have bothered to wander up the road to vote No then...
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jeffers
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Posted: 06 May 11 at 1:52pm |
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The early reports I saw today suggested that the No vote appears to have it. Probably because they had a FPTP or AV instead of a 'should we look at other systems Yes/No' which may have got a significantly different result. For one I would have voted yes if it was for PR rather than AV....
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I recall reading somwhere that there was an ammendment to the referendment bill stating that unless there was a 60% turnout and a 60% yes vote then the powers that be would take no notice of the will of the people - no idea if it was adopted though
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Posted: 06 May 11 at 8:10am |
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So does anyone know if the referendum is split 51 Yes / 49 No will that be enough to change the system? Or does there need to be a larger majority? Looking at our unofficial opinion poll above it may well be very close. The only difference is the "won't bother to vote" will be in the majority. |
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JimC
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That convinced me... If second and third votes are going to be at least as important as first votes then the way to be elected is likely to be some kind of characterless policyless lukewarm nothing with only getting elected as a policy... think there are too many of those already: the thought of a government consisting of the political equivalent of McDonalds burgers is, well, a bit too much to stomach... |
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Rupert
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Posted: 05 May 11 at 8:52pm |
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Well, thanks to work, kiddie swimming lessons and bedtime, and being on my own currently looking after them, I'll not be voting. Not that I'd decided which way to vote, anyway. Maybe there should have been a "don't know" box, like on opinion polls...
My apologies to the "people have died for this right" brigade, but actually, I don't think anybody has died over this decision, and I don't think it will affect democracy one way or the other.
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English Dave
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Posted: 05 May 11 at 6:52pm |
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I voted No. While I accept that the FPTP system will allow candidates with less than 50% of the vote to be elected, I don't believe that electing someone with a whole load of "#3" votes to bolster their lack of "#1" votes is any fairer.
FPTP elects the candidate who is most popular. AV elects the candidate who is the least unpopular. I don't like double negatives, myself.
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RS400atC
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Are you assuming that everybody would make a second choice?
Personally, I would not put any of the 'main' parties as a second choice, although I expect some people will. I saw a posting on a news site today where someone with fairly clear socialist convictions said he would put Lib, Lab, Tory as 1,2,3. Why would such a person ever want their vote counted for the tories FFS?
If it does happen, I hope it stirs things up a bit, gets a few wider issues discussed and shows a lot of the pollsters and commentators to be the useless waste of space they really are.
Also if it's a Yes, people will want an election to try out their new toy won't they?
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Posted: 05 May 11 at 4:44pm |
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I voted yes. in tbhis constituency such a system would have stopped the tories getting inlast year.
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the same, but different...
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RS400atC
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Apparently, studies have shown that quite a number of people vote for who they think is going to win, rather than on any belief system. In the same way that lots of people who don't know where Liverpool is support their football team. You can reform the scoring system all you like, but when the raw material is the Great British Public, there are limits to what can be achieved. I suppose writing down a few numbers will require a bit more intellect than scrawling an X.
I voted by post, hopefully I put the right bit of paper in the right envelope....
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