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didlydon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 08 Location: Margate England Online Status: Offline Posts: 280 |
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Errrr.... Just Google her...... Luverly.....
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asterix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 621 |
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Do'm ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 04 Location: Hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
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Yes I know it sounds alot and when you are not employed every day and you do many days of preparation to deliver one or two days work, it works out like any other job except you have no security and no pension. There are a lot of things to factor in and professional trainers are always bidding for work which also costs time and money and more than not it is unsuccesful, frustrating and thats the way the market works.
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£400 a day well below the going rate?! I'm in the wrong job!
Mind you, I suppose he has to add on lunch and venue hire. Edited by Peaky - 25 Jan 11 at 2:31pm |
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moonlight ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
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And if you add in the £20 per head as mentioned above that puts it up to £60 per person. On Peaky's fiqure of £600 less travel and hotel overnight, that would mean the trainer would be getting about £400 for a days work which is well below the going rate. Looked at from the customers perspective, it is just above the rate the RYA charge for their Race Manegemnt Course so probably represents good value if the content is good.
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£125 sounds very steep to me, but I don't have the deepest pockets! I would have thought that £600 for a days effort, including travel and subsistence was perfectly fair. Split 15 ways that's £40 a pop, which is far more reasonable. Having said that, I still wouldn't pay that for a weather course, because I think it would be of very limited use for typical dinghy racing on a lake.
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Do'm ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 04 Location: Hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
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Stewart that is a really interesting site, thanks for that. The forum has some very indepth discussions from people who sound like they know what they are talking about. And when it comes to accurate forecasting, it is easier to get it wrong the right, so who do you believe. I can't find anywhere on the site that expalins what the site is all about and who it is really for. Perhaps I'll stumble on it.
I'd like to find a good course on the weather and I am debating with myself as to whether Simon's 1 day programme at the Royal Southampton Yacht Club represents good value at £125. With 15 candidates attending, it sounds more like a day of lectures on the weather and without exercises to develop understanding, it could end up as too much information.
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drifter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 08 Location: Oxfordshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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I'm fascinated by the weather (for sailing and day job) and would consider going on a good course. Obviously, I'd want Laura Tobin presenting, but that's just fantasy.
There are excellent weather websites which offer the opportunity to learn and ask real experts (well, many of them are). The forum on www.theweatheroutlook.co.uk is very useful-though won't help you get any sailing certificate!
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Do'm ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 04 Location: Hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
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So what interest is there in a days course like this? This day's training will take you far beyond what you would cover in the Yacht Master sylabus and also be of real benefit when looking at forthcoming weather and its effects on various sailing venues.
How much do people think is the right price to pay for a days training from a top professional? And please bear in mind the unless a particular club sponsors it, the costs per head start at £20 to include a portion of venue hire, four lots of tea/coffee and a buffet lunch.
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Contender443 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
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I suspect as you say this guy is a big boat sailor so unless you are into that then I guess most of us are not bothered. We all get so used to looking out at the course and judging the conditions for ourselves.
You can find plenty of books to explain local weather effects. So I think the £125 is too expensive plus I don't have the time to spend on this.
Now if I was planning t osail round Britain or do my Yachtmasters then this would be worth it.
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