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dave101 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
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Thanks, those videos are very good, plenty of things to try next weekend!
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Garry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 536 |
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No kicker, boom out, heel a lot to windward. The kicker and heel make a lot of difference. You can leaglly jab the rudder as long as it doesn't move the boat forward. Watch the RYA volvo training videos http://www.ryachampionclubtv.co.uk/
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dave101 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
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I'm sailing a Laser
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Bryn_14 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 10 Location: GB Online Status: Offline Posts: 113 |
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What boat do you sail? It has quite a big effect on timings and start strategies IMHO
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dave101 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
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Last year I did an open meeting where everyone lined up on the start line early, waited on the start line for a while and accelerated just before the start gun. From what I read that is the correct way to start. Since that open meeting I have been trying to do the same thing myself. However I have trouble stopping the boat at the right point, and when I do try to stop the boat tends to sneak forward/backwards or go into ions.
Does anyone have any tips on approach position and timing, and the best way to hold the boat (angle to wind, centerboard position etc.)? |
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LarFinn ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 10 Location: Roadford Lake, Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
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I've just posted a load of videos to You Tube from this weekend Finn Masters at Roadford Lake. 6 of the 8 are about 2 minutes long starting from just before the 1 minute to go horn. Well worth a watch to see the different tactics. Fleet size was 15, so busy but not overcrowded. I was on the Committee boat so all the action is close up but I was about 5 foot back from the line - i.e. not looking straight down the line.
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ellistine ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 762 |
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I'm glad you said that. I was starting to think it was me! |
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grimupnorth ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 48 |
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Also . . . check out the 'Higher & Faster' DVD for some
pre-start techniques. Then look at the results tally for Alistair Richardson & Peter Greenhalgh, realise that they are making it look very easy, and go for a nice cup of tea and a quiet lie down :-) |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Actually the 4000 doesn't accelerate that fast because 1.
its heavy and 2. it has to get up to quite a high speed which takes time. I think you may have realised that you are sitting on the line, better to come in fast, duck all the slow boats and you'll be in clear air before you know it. |
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grimupnorth ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 48 |
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The 4000 is a very tough boat to handle in pre-start,
especially if you're used to a boat with soft sails that is comfortable sailing 'almost stopped' - we learned this very dramatically the other day doing club race training as the only 4000 among lots of lasers! I presume you've read all the stuff on the L4k website cos I have seen you posting there ;-) One approach is to keep some speed on and plan a start based on time-over distance; either by sailing up to the line on a slowish close reach and protecting your lane as you go; or come in from the left on port and hope to find a lane to tack into. Otherwise you need (like we do!) to find ways of slowing almost to a stop, which is v v difficult - there is always the possibility of the boat heading up into irons and then tacking, so the crew needs to have the lazy jib sheet in hand ready to back the sail and flip the boat back round. Coming to a complete stop involves backing the main and learning then how to get the boat moving again. What makes your life extra difficult is the influence of the extremely long L4K daggerboard - when flow over it breaks down at low speed, the boat becomes very hard to control. Learning how to do a 'bail out & gybe round' routine under control is probably useful too :-) We feel your pain! |
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