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    Posted: 28 Jan 10 at 8:21am

When we had Force 8 in 2007 they kept all the dinghies on the beach. When the first keel boat with a broken mast came back in no one doubted that it was a good decision by the race committee.

( O.k., maybe beside the few RS400 crews that actually launched in the morning but were send back right away.)

Although they clean the beach every morning I have never seen someone dredging the bay from weed. You pick some up while launching but we never had problems on the race courses.

The special thing about Travemünder Woche really is the party. Something like Oktoberfest and a huge sailing week at the same time at the same place. Beer and music are better than Oktoberfest, though.

It is a huge event, you need to look after your stuff so it does not "find a new owner". Some say the day the 420's are leaving is the most critical day...



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Originally posted by gordon

Would it be pedantic to point out that gusts of 34 to 40 knots do not a Force 8 make!

Beaufort indicates average wind speeds over a period of time.

Which is not to say that gusts that strong can be quite hairy.

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Yes. Just like the Bloody Mary was generally 15 knots....but it is the 25kn gusts that will stick in my mind!

Travemunde; Expect anything wind & waves wise, like UK summer. In my experience during a week you will experience a big downpour/storm, take good waterproofs and make sure your tent is up to it. Fantasic carnaval atmoshphere on shore at Travemunde week but take straws to get through the froth.

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Would it be pedantic to point out that gusts of 34 to 40 knots do not a Force 8 make!

Beaufort indicates average wind speeds over a period of time.

Which is not to say that gusts that strong can be quite hairy.

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505's have had world several champs on that bit of the Baltic recently.

Both at Travemunde and at Warnemunde in the past 20 yrs (and the FD's too, I think about 4/5 yrs ago at Warnemunde).

Great venues - we think.  Think that Ian Barker won the 92 worlds there.

Sailing tends to be rather Hayling-esque.  Chop rather than Weymouth /Lyme Regis.  And tends to have that Solent-ish speed of wind pattern (just my view here).

Both these venues are preferred to Kiel by the British fleet......then again we don't have camper vans, and we do like our creature comforts...!!

 

 

 

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Originally posted by Villan

I wasn't doubting it! After reading that though, I'm shocked that the only damage was one broken 29er mast!

Either the European boats are built and sailed properly, or the Tiger in 2008 was force 15! (about 6 29er masts went iirc!)

Yeah, poor old Clarisa. Sails on the Chiemsee, not far from me. I think her boat was made by Ovingtons too (supplied by Steinlechner, Utting) so why all those masts failed is a mystery to me. 
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Originally posted by Guest#260

WEEEEDDDDD!!!!

Rick, I think they dredge regularly in the Fjord, so plants are not the problem.  

When I did the MPS Gold Cup there weed was a nightmare ...

Parking on the beach was also bad as you really struggled to move the boats on trollies and there were no hoses. But the fayre was great ...

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I wasn't doubting it! After reading that though, I'm shocked that the only damage was one broken 29er mast!

Either the European boats are built and sailed properly, or the Tiger in 2008 was force 15! (about 6 29er masts went iirc!)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slippery Jim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 10 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by Villan

Originally posted by Slippery Jim

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WEEEEDDDDD!!!!

Rick, I think they dredge regularly in the Fjord, so plants are not the problem.  

Last year the Optimists faced 8Bft and they would have continued had it not been for the anchor chain breaking on the start boat and the leeward marker drifting off...

 

Originally posted by turnturtle

BF 8:

Description: Gale, Fresh gale
Wind Speed: 34 – 40 knots
Sea State: Moderately high waves with breaking crests forming spindrift. Well-marked streaks of foam
are blown along wind direction. Considerable airborne spray.

Y&Y description: Gael Force

Editor of Y&Y. Not much else to say, any dinghy sailor going-out is a dickhead who could potentially
encourage the fun police to start legislating our beloved sport. Any sailor launching in these
conditions deserves to have their profile photo photoshopped into Britney Spears ‘upskirt’ before
being unceremoniously drummed out the brownies by printing it slap bang in the middle of Roll
Tacks.

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Maybe Optimists are tougher... or they're like those little toys - weebles I think - who when they get knocked down just bounce back up for more... Anyways, just read the appropriate info before your reflex response. It's in the english language too, so no excuses

  http://www.travemuender-woche.net/index.phtml?object=tx%7c16 53.21&ModID=255&FID=1653.328.2&&sNavID=1.100 &mNavID=1.100&La=2

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Villan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 10 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by Guest#260

WEEEEDDDDD!!!!

Rick, I think they dredge regularly in the Fjord, so plants are not the problem.  

Last year the Optimists faced 8Bft and they would have continued had it not been for the anchor chain breaking on the start boat and the leeward marker drifting off...

 

Originally posted by turnturtle

BF 8:

Description: Gale, Fresh gale
Wind Speed: 34 – 40 knots
Sea State: Moderately high waves with breaking crests forming spindrift. Well-marked streaks of foam
are blown along wind direction. Considerable airborne spray.

Y&Y description: Gael Force

Editor of Y&Y. Not much else to say, any dinghy sailor going-out is a dickhead who could potentially
encourage the fun police to start legislating our beloved sport. Any sailor launching in these
conditions deserves to have their profile photo photoshopped into Britney Spears ‘upskirt’ before
being unceremoniously drummed out the brownies by printing it slap bang in the middle of Roll
Tacks.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

WEEEEDDDDD!!!!

Rick, I think they dredge regularly in the Fjord, so plants are not the problem.  

Last year the Optimists faced 8Bft and they would have continued had it not been for the anchor chain breaking on the start boat and the leeward marker drifting off...

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