New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Which sportboat to choose
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Which sportboat to choose
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123>
Author
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Stefan Lloyd View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 03 Aug 04
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1599 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Which sportboat to choose
    Posted: 19 Apr 05 at 8:04am

Originally posted by tony198

707 nice little boat but wet (did RTI on one) and needs to be supercharged a bit, someone did put a bigger rig on one with a masthead kite i think.

Yes they did: the "Action 24" which was dual-spreader with a masthead kite. They buillt two and sold one. A year later the boat was sold and restored to the class rig.

Personally I don't think the 707 wants "supercharging". It provides big-fleet racing with a lot of mixed-sex crews. A more powerful rig means heavy all-male crews will get all the chocolates (which is fairly true even now). The 707 provides a lot of fun to a lot of people as it is; leave it alone.

 
Back to Top
ioanlavery View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 08 Dec 04
Location: Wales
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 100 		Post Options Post Options   Quote ioanlavery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:54pm

With the 1720 you are going to need a crew of 5 to handle perfectly. The club version I believe a crew of 3 can handle because of the smaller sail area and furling jib option - no need for a bowman(person) to go forward and drop the jib - (as a helm I always enjoy sending my crew up there - esp when windy !)

The SB3 has the same designer - Tony Castro - hence the similarities at a smaller scale. These are crewed by 3-4.

All of these require good sportsboat/asymmetric handling skills to cope well in all conditions. 

I think to purchase one of the above to sail for fun with a small crew could become quite hard work once the wind increases. e.g. if it's blowing force 4+ and you are short of crew on a 1720, then dropping the kite could end up in a trawling session.
Pretty certain that would be the same on the "club" version of the 1720.
As for the SB3 - I don't know as I haven't sailed one.

Can't comment on the 707 as I haven't been anywhere near one - well apart from a close encounter at a leeward mark once upon a time !!
aka YoYo
Back to Top
tony198 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 14 Jan 05
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14 		Post Options Post Options   Quote tony198 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:39pm

From my experience of sportsboats we have:

707 nice little boat but wet (did RTI on one) and needs to be supercharged a bit, someone did put a bigger rig on one with a masthead kite i think.

1720 fast hilarious good fun, wet especially on the bow (fell off one twice on one run, but kept hold luckily), takes a lot of grunt when windy

sb3 not sailed one yet but looks like a baby 1720, probably just as much fun.

rs elite very wet boat, bit like a tea tray that floats.

newish from france http://www.openproductions.com/chantiers/open_chantier.htm looks like fun!

Had a few bad experiences on sportsboats, but too many good ones. I'll still stick to my 40 footer though (nice n dry).



Edited by tony198
Back to Top
sailor girl View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 04
Location: Spain
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1031 		Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:16pm
speaking form a lighter and less strong (NOT WEAK!!!) point of view, somthing like a laser SB3 is alot easier to handle and more enjoyable if your not going to be hardcore racing, as it's alot less work.
Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!
Back to Top
Stefan Lloyd View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 03 Aug 04
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1599 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:12pm
I don't think either boat is very easy to sail upwind with a small crew. A 1720 has a very big rig, especially in "class rig" mode. The "club rig" is smaller but probably not available 2nd hand, if that is what you had in mind.
Back to Top
gelders View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 16 Apr 05
Location: Netherlands
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 5 		Post Options Post Options   Quote gelders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 7:59pm

As the ballast/displacement ratio of a cork 1720 is approx 50% I presume it will be easier to sail with a small crew than the hunter 707. Mostly regarding upwind performance.
J.Gelders
Back to Top
Stefan Lloyd View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 03 Aug 04
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1599 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 5:38pm
What about one of these http://www.bethwaite.com/4427,01,1-0-79er.html ? The canting keel is supposed to make it possible to do without much crew weight. Looks rather pricey, unfortunately.
Back to Top
sailor girl View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 04
Location: Spain
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1031 		Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 05 at 9:08pm
very true...
Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!
Back to Top
ioanlavery View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 08 Dec 04
Location: Wales
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 100 		Post Options Post Options   Quote ioanlavery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 05 at 8:52pm
that's not for me to comment on ! lol
aka YoYo
Back to Top
sailor girl View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 04
Location: Spain
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1031 		Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 05 at 8:51pm
wow, another 1720 admirer!!!!!! most of the guys who sail them are pretty nice to!!!!
Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy