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    Posted: 23 May 09 at 8:21pm
Ok, Duralac it is then whenever I replace anything stainless on me ally mast! Thanx for the info.  
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Duralac is zinc chromate paste and acts as a sacrificial anode. 

Its not! I always though that, but the other day I looked it up and it is in fact Barium Chromate and it seems the chemistry going on is a lot more complicated. I didn't find a source I trusted to work out exactly how it works - especially with carbon - but it definitely says barium chromate on the tube I have.


You are absolutely right, used to use it all the time at work and everyone either called it Zinc Chromate or Chicken Sh1t. Looking at the MSDS it is not as quite as nasty as was made out either.

If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Originally posted by Granite

Duralac is zinc chromate paste and acts as a sacrificial anode. 

Its not! I always though that, but the other day I looked it up and it is in fact Barium Chromate and it seems the chemistry going on is a lot more complicated. I didn't find a source I trusted to work out exactly how it works - especially with carbon - but it definitely says barium chromate on the tube I have.
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A2 stainless will survive in the short-term, provided you give it a sloosh down with fresh water on a fairly regular basis. You might start to get a bit of discolouration but that, in the, again, short-term, shouldn't present a problem. Looking at the state of a lot of the fastenings on several SMODs, it is clear that their suppliers are more than happy to use A2 rather than the significantly more expensive A4.

But then again....there are different qualities of A4 stainless out there .

 



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A job for me later this summer then as I replaced all of the load bearing (and loose in some cases) rivets on one of ali masts with A2 stainless steel bolts. I've also discovered that apparently I should have used A4 stainless and not A2 (is there a big difference?) and err no Dualac.

Does it survive exposure to the elements and the occasional dunking?
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Duralac is zinc chromate paste and acts as a sacrificial anode.
 
With Aluminium and stainless the ali corrodes. With Carbon and pretty much any metal the metal corodes. If  the corrosion products cause the metal to expand then the carbon can get damaged, like putting an ali tube in a carbon mast (Old RS600 masts)

You want to avoid getting it onto your skin as it is quite nasty, it is also a pain to wash out of clothes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote didlydon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 09 at 10:25pm
Ah.... Cheers Alex. I understand now. Thanx for the reply.. I guess I should've used it when I fitted a new kicker eye to my mast.....
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I'd use duralac. By all means use your bit of plastic milk container to smear duralac into the gap though.

And yes, if anything its *more* important to use it on carbon spars than on aluminium.
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Didlydon,

Duralac is a yellow paste which comes in a tube and gets everywhere when you use it...normally because I always seem to have to bolt fiddly things to masts. It's not just for stainless v ali contact; I was advised to use it when replacing fittings on a carbon mast as well.

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