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    Posted: 30 Nov 17 at 11:18am
Yes it does thanks. I'll try a Brummel + short bury and, if I have no joy with that, some different rope. 

Those other techniques look a little involved for me. I can see it ending in tears and frustration.

When I looked at the rope in the shop it looked ideal for simple splicing, I was expecting it to be as easy as raw dyneema which I've spliced before without issue.
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Swiftcord isn' really designed for splicing as the hole down the middle is too small. However I have seen it done with an exceptionally short bury (2cm) and whipped to hold it all in place basically relying on the brummel lock and whip for the strength. 

You could try the soft fid method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkwS_HVn6s to get what you are after. Might need a bit of stitching to get enough strength. 

Or you could attache your thin dyneema piece in with a locking brummel. Here are some rough directions if you need them. Start by putting the swiftcord through the thin dyneema about a fid length from the end of the dyneema, pull through at least 2 fid lengths, take the other end of the dyneema and put it through the swifcord about a fid length from the end of the swift cord. Pull the main bits of the swiftcord and dyneema away from themselves and the brummel will lock. now the tricky part. The short dyneema end needs to be threaded down the inside of the swiftcord which isn't too difficult if it is thin, however the thinner it is the harder it is to thread the swiftcord end inside the dyneema. A really open weave helps (one where when you push the rope it opens up and has a big space inside it). That will get you the thin line connected to the thick line. then splice away like normal*

 *lots of difficulty

option 2 is an end to end splice without the lock and that can be seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6patBi3aEo the whipping might get stuck when you try and splice with it though so maybe just stitch through over the joint a couple of times to hold it together.

Alternatively you could switch to superswift which is designed for tapering and splicing.

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Taper the tail before burying it and it will be much easier.
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Thanks I've probably watched most of the relevant videos on that channel in my research. I thought I'd be able to make a simple Brummell splice like I've done before with single braid dyneema, but I just can't bury the tail in this Swiftcord.

I assume others have had the same issue which is why a previous poster advised splicing a smaller diameter rope into the Swiftcord. It's that method I'm interested in. I haven't a video showing it yet
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I think you will find this YouTube channel very useful, I know I do.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote BVS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Nov 17 at 1:14pm
Old thread I know, but can anyone provide a more detailed description or pictures of how to put an eye splice in Swiftcord?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 09 at 11:43am
Thanks adam

This is a great help. If you're ever at a 14 event will buy you a beer!

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Hi Alex

I take it that you are splicing Swiftcord as Maffioli is the manufacturer. Swiftcord is a 12 plait rope without a core in. So when you want a tail or a loop in the end of it you need to splice some compact 12 into it. The way you do that is splice the compact 12 straight up the end of the swiftcord for 15-20cm. Then it just need to be sewn in, so it does come out. So with one bit of whipping twine back stitch 10cm from the end towards the end. When you get to the end whip the end.

You can do all sorts of splices with swiftcord it is very versitile. When splicing 8mm I use 4mm compact, with 6mm I use 3mm compact.

I hope this makes sense if not email me adam@rssailing.com and I will get you some pics.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 09 at 8:55pm
No i know how to splice just wondered the easiest way to do what i wanted.
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http://www.marlowropes.com/public/pageManager.cfm?page_id=21 &scrRes=0

 

Few splicing guides there, not sure how much they will help but worth a try if you haven't alrady

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