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Tim, glad to know it wasnt just us!
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Francois Morvan and Mathieu Vandame have just won their class in the Costamoricaine 2009 in one, so its going well in france as well.
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I blew up a couple of new Spitfire Centreboards just plain reaching. New boards, no obstructions, just speed
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My Dart Hawk blades are tough enough.  They've had a lot of stick over the years and just have the usual nicks and wear on the bottom.  I've even had to stand on one to get the boat up on my own.

 

The new boat looks good.  The one reservation I have is that it still has the rounded hull.  I have 2 Loday/White designs (The Hawk and a Dart 16) and the impression I get is that they lose out to other boats with flat sided hulls.  The water pressure on the flat hulls seems to prevent a bit of leeway and also allows them to point higher.  This is from sailing Nacra F18s and Tigers.  All the new boats, the new Wild Cat, the Infusion, the Bimarre and the Capricorn all have radically different hull designs.  The Shockwave looks like it will be a more stable boat though, and this counts for a lot in British waters!

The shockwave won't suffer what helped kill of the Hawk though.  The strong Pound!
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with the exchange rate as it is anything imported into the uk is going to be very expensive. so the shockwave will be a bargin compared to the new tiger and the older f18s like the capricorn and nacras
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Originally posted by StormySeaSailor

  they say 18.345 Euros complete freigh and taxes included so in the UK, it might be less ...

hope it is worth it

 
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Originally posted by craiggo

I dare say that some are stronger than others, but it does seem strange that these problems arise with the boards. I think most sailors in the UK would rather have a set of foils that last the life of the boat but weigh a kg more than having to fork out £250 every 6 months for another lightweight set.

For info my father in law bought his boat shortly following the launch at Sailboat back in the day and raced the boat hard for many years so this isnt some recent issue on a secondhand boats.

no problems known to me, unless you hit something of course!

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The only time I have broken a dagger board was when I tried to sail over a very large buoy... Frankly, if it hadn't broken, I don't know if I'd ever have gotten off the thing. Otherwise, I sailed the Spitfire with both boards fully down, upwind and downwind, in all sorts of weather and waves, no problem.
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I dare say that some are stronger than others, but it does seem strange that these problems arise with the boards. I think most sailors in the UK would rather have a set of foils that last the life of the boat but weigh a kg more than having to fork out £250 every 6 months for another lightweight set.

For info my father in law bought his boat shortly following the launch at Sailboat back in the day and raced the boat hard for many years so this isnt some recent issue on a secondhand boats.

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Originally posted by craiggo

The daggerboards coming out of Loday/White have always suprised me with their fragility. My wife and her father destroyed several daggerboards in their Spitfire and were often told to raise them a couple of inches to reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, but surely a foil that small should be strong enough to be left fully down all the time?
I was also suprised to see that in the construction of the foils they seem to use a couple of layers of glass over foam with no stiffeners.
The weight saving from this cant be much when you compare the foils to most dinghy foils which are significantly stiffer and designed to stay down all the time.

The stern looks interesting with plenty of volume and hints towards a semi-planing design either that or my eyes are screwed!



I sailed on the Spitfire since the first prototypes and the only time I broke a daggerboard was went it hit a rock ... actually I feel lucky that it broke instead of the hull ...

I did countless long distance races with heavy crews, daggerboards down, 2 traps and the spinaker on, I'm still waiting for a daggerboard to fail ...
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