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    Posted: 26 Apr 09 at 8:32pm
Just to update, I've bought a Vareo and am also keeping the L2000. Best of
both worlds!
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Have you considered a NS14?  Great for dad/kids, husband/wife and also the best 2-man boat I have sailed singlehanded.  Easy to sail, fast, light and extremely high tech design. 
http://www.sailns14.org - The ultimate family raceboat now available in the UK
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the 600 will be a mahoosive leap from a 2k, i wouldn't recomend it.

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A couple of options that don't seem to have been mentioned much are the Blaze and the RS600. Not so sure about carrying passengers in them but both look good single hand options from an L2K.
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Had an interesting time at the boat show.

To be honest, I was a bit disappointed by the Vago's appearance and
finish - and my 11 year old daughter said she'd 'never sail in it' which
wasn't a good start. I will, though remain open minded and have a test
sail.

I then went back to the Vareo and, in comparison, it was much more
appealing. It would, though, have to be an addition to the fleet and not a
replacement for the L2000.

I was impressed by the V3000. The chap I was talking to explained that
he's developing a single-handed version with the mast moved forward
and a lower boom - the boat could be swapped easily from one rig to the
other. As a two-person boat it wouldn't replace the L2000 either, but
then I doubt the Vago would, if I'm honest.

Maybe, then, that the idea of a boat that will perform both single- and
double-handed functions is a pipedream, and I need to have two.

So, test sails with all three is the next stage.

Thanks for all the feedback so far - much appreciated.

Phil
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Originally posted by turnturtle

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Depends if you want to trapeze or not.

I DO I DO.  Hiking sucks.  It hurts and it's slow.  Why waste all that righting moment and suffer smaller sails as a result. 

Of course there is the blaze, but it would be better still with a kite and a trapeze IMHO.

As to whether the V3k is a "better" single hander than a vario ... well it goes faster for less physical effort, but is more complicated and probably over-powers earlier.  So force 2-4 yes.  Otherwise probably not.



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Originally posted by Webmuppet

So do you really think that the V3000 is a better single-hander than the Vareo?..., it's a great boat but it does depend very much on what you want - a single hander that carries a passenger well or a two-hander for two lightweights that can be sailed as a single hander...........hmmmm - I guess that you takes your choice etc. etc. Confused

Nigel

Depends if you want to trapeze or not.

Worth bearing in mind that a two-man, single-wire trapeze boat only loses well under half its righting moment when you omit the hiking crew member. Thus it's a lot more viable than a two-man hiking boat sailed singlehanded, unless the latter was using a crisp-packet crew when two-up, as is the case with many Nat 12's.

The L3k can of course also be sailed as a hiking singlehander, reefing the main and furling the jib as necessary, but it won't be quick.
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Originally posted by timeintheboat

Perhaps we could do with a best double hander as a single hander thread...

My 2p worth is that the N12 could have another life as a single hander. Especially on the smaller ponds where trapeze based single handers are not an option.
  • They don't like weight - but 16st would be OK single handed.
  • A development class so plenty of scope to fiddle.
  • The jib could be rigged to be self-tacking.
  • It could have a centre main!
  • Scope for plenty of string to keep you amused.

If I had the pennies (I don't - see above formula) I think it would be fun to turn a 12 into a proper single hander. A bit like like a super good looking RS300 Wink

You could get a sensible 12 for well under a £1000 with a lot of life in it.  I think you will find that the Burton Cup winning 12 this year carried 22 stone so I would not get too carried away about weight as the facts do not entirely bear the argument out.  They do work singlehanded quite nicely on restricted water and are great for sailing with your kids.  My children currently prefer a Mirror or a Wayfarer but if they are 7+ then a 12 should work well.  Just remember it is supposed to be fun for them too.  Get one and enjoy it!
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Originally posted by turnturtle

shocking isn't it Philsy... but to be fair, the Vareo is so much nicer and in a different league to the Vago!


So do you really think that the V3000 is a better single-hander than the Vareo?..., it's a great boat but it does depend very much on what you want - a single hander that carries a passenger well or a two-hander for two lightweights that can be sailed as a single hander...........hmmmm - I guess that you takes your choice etc. etc. Confused

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You can reef the 3000. I have a couple of times when its windy and it's fine.
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