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mike ellis 
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 Topic: Rivetting into carbonPosted: 03 Dec 07 at 10:55am |
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right i've finnally finnished varnishing my mast and ive got a new cleat but i still haven't been able to get hold of any rivets for carbon fibre, even google hasnt been any use. can someone point me in the right direction please?
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Merlinboy
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Dave the whole town stank (worse then normal) real mess i had a tide mark of sh*t stuck arround the bottom of my boat that i couldnt shift for hours of scrubbing! I havnt swam in the water since the floods dont really intend to either |
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mike ellis
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Posted: 03 Oct 07 at 9:03pm |
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see PM
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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timnoyce
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Posted: 03 Oct 07 at 8:40pm |
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The actual act of rivetting into carbon is the same as riveting into aluminium... it's just more critical exactly how you do it.
I agree with Rick that you should try and get hold of some of the carbon rivets as they don't squash the fibres like a normal rivet and so you won't cause a structural problem in the mast. If you ring me at work tomorrow I can probably get you a couple in the post if we have any in stock. |
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Posted: 03 Oct 07 at 7:03pm |
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Surley it should be exactly the same?
Drill out old rivet Slop on some of the anti-corrosion gloop Put Rivet into Rivetgun Insert into existing hole in mast, ensuring gloop spreads over it Pull handle a few times, until a loud *BANG* is heard Done! Now turn around, and try it on your own boat! Good Luck!! |
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mike ellis
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Posted: 03 Oct 07 at 6:15pm |
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why's it so hard to rivet into carbon fibre? whats different from alluminium?
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English Dave
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Posted: 02 Oct 07 at 11:31pm |
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Salt water does make things worse as the salt in the water acts as an electrolyte and that helps the galvanic corrosion. Pure water is a relatively poor conductor although throwing a toaster in the bath is still a bad idea. Use dichromate paste in any case - it saves having to replace every rivet if you move to the seaside. Also, with Tewksbury's sewage treatment plant getting flooded the other week ( I used to row at Lower Lode, below the weir as a nipper so I know the area) I'm sure there were lots of electrolyes around Forget lazy tongues, get an air gun! |
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 02 Oct 07 at 6:52pm |
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It only reacts in salt water doesnt it??? i thought that the salt water, carbon and alloy created a kind of battery, as for rivet gun get some lazy tongs!
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Smight at BBSC
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Posted: 02 Oct 07 at 6:22pm |
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Some old 600 sailor at bbsc left the old cleat and just riveted a new one underneath
 It's already started to rust 
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Posted: 02 Oct 07 at 3:15pm |
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And a tough rivet gun! You'll need more muscle power for that than driving a rivet into aluminium.
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