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    Posted: 11 Oct 07 at 7:33pm

Beleieve Zoe and Graham weigh in between 18 - 19 stone. Having watched them, they were hunting for height rather than footing off like Steve and Toby (we lost height on both and still not sure why as the slot etc and lechs were looking good both in the boat and photos!). Steve weighs in at about 78 kg and Toby 58 kg equalling 21.4 stone (we weighed in at 151 kg (23.7 stone)). Believe the Musto boys were in the same weight range.  If a force 5 believe the results may ahve been different as Hector says.

However, we are looking at very small margins and in a less competitive fleet, 25 stne would probably be fine.

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Originally posted by giraffe

What do you think the ideal weight is?  I note that the Steve Tylecote the Firefly rep did not sail with a Firefly crew, but the N12 team were N12 size.  It seems that they are heavy and generally respond pretty well to a couple of largish lads.  Any views?


The N12 team are small by N12 standards - 17ish stone if I remember rightly. I think they may have struggled handling it in the breezier races....
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Not sure what Steve weighs? He's not skinny so maybe 12 - 13st?

If so that would put him + tobytastic in the 21 - 22st range. Worth remembering though that these guys (and gals) are hiking very hard. I think we can assume that most folk who are likely to be attracted to the Xenon will be less fit and/or have a reduced willingness to hike / withstand pain! Taking that into account, another stone or two and a little less athleticism would probably be more manageable and realistic.

Of course if it had blown harder, we may all be saying 24st+.



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For my pennies worth, having done this years event, would say that the Merlin and Xenon crew weights are comparable and if racing at that level, you can be to heavy. Would think the ideal weight would be between 20.5 - 23.0 stone. More weight and you seemed to struggle but this could also be down to other factors.

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I think the style of racing at the Endeavour means it's not really a boatspeed event so crew weight will not be as big a factor as it would be on the sea.

 

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Did not realise.  I guess what I actually meant was "did not sail with his normal Firefly crew". 

Interesting to note that what must be a very heavy boat - it is rotomoulded and long - still does not carry much more weight than say something like a Merlin.  Are the sails big enough?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote andymck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 07 at 8:24pm

Good on you steve.

The freddy is the most competative class I have sailed in, all the boats go about the same speed, its all about work and tactics and boat handling,  and has a wide range of weight carrying abilities, maybe the ideal endeavor boat.

Same reasons it has become the team racing boat of choice once again. Opps opened a can of worms there

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Contrary to the post above Steve Tylecote did in fact sail with a "Firefly" crew at the Endeavour.  "Tobytastic" Lewis sailed with Firefly Class Chairman, Damian Boreham, at this years Firefly Nationals, finishing 10th overall.  Toby has also done lots of team racing in Fireflys.

Like most of us Toby is also seen in a wide variety of other boats!  Single class fanatics are rare in dinghy sailing these days.

And at this point I'd like to add my congratulations to Steve and Toby on an awesome achievement.  Having spent most of the last 13 years trying to beat Steve round the course in a Firefly I already knew he was a great sailor - now the rest of you have realised!

 

 

 

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Steve sailed with a 57kg crew ... it was F3-4 ...
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i guess it pretty well depends on the weather to be honest but overall i'd say probably a combo of about 21 stone.
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