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    Posted: 25 Sep 07 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by Rob.e

45 mins from soton could be Portsmouth or Ringwood!


Heh, I wish I was that close to the coast, tho I am glad I don't live in Portsmouth!

I'm in a small village just outside Andover and Stockbridge called, of all things, 'Over Wallop'.

It's quite a way up in the north west of the county almost on the Wiltshire boarder, so I'll be looking at a long drive wherever I end up going.

Thanks again to everyone who has posted so far, I'm looking for a 2k at the moment, but christ they are expensive! I'm guessing it's because they are easy to handle and thus in a lot of demand?

I'll check out those other suggestions too.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rob.e Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 07 at 2:27pm
45 mins from soton could be Portsmouth or Ringwood! If you are near Pompey, Portchester is a cheap friendly club with a small fleet of 2000's and a small but growing and active fleet of 200's. You might also consider an RS500- there are a few intermediates having a great time in them at HISC. There is also a Trapeze kit for the Vision, which would be more forgiving. Give us a better clue of where you are, and we can give you better advice!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ratface Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 07 at 9:54pm
for Hampshire u will be more likely to sail in chichester harbour and there are many clubs around the harbour
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As a sailing instructor I'd say that the 3000 is going to be a little too much to handle after a level2 course, like wise the Vago.

The L2000 should provide a challenge, it may also be worth looking at rs200, a Lark might be a good cheeper alternative, all be it with out an assimetric.

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Again look at what is sailed at the club(s) you want to sail at. If you are only 45 minutes from Southampton I think it will be say that there is a variety of clubs to join, from sea sailing to lake sailing. So depending on which club you want to join might affect the boat you will want to sail.
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Originally posted by Nihil

I live about 45 mins from Southampton in Hampshire.

Give us a closer location and we'll give you some suggestions on clubs... 45 mins, north, west, what?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote FireballNeil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 07 at 10:45pm
As much as i hate to say it, a laser vago is a reasonably forgiving ride and can be sailed in light to medium breezes with no trapeze (or even a f5 with the big main and the kite with noone wearing a harness across weymouth bay lol) and cn always be reefed cos the reefing system is quite simple and quick to use, even though i don't actualy like the boat!
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Its a bit unfair to call a 2k a tank.  I think they are nice boats, their not gonna set the world on fire but they are brisk enough in a blow behave like a proper boat whilst your learning the basics and maintain their value well when you decide to move to something quicker.  Don't be goaded into picking a boat just within reach, you will simply spend your time swimming, worrying or staying ashore.  IMHO i'd get something along the lines of a 2K learn a bit more, reinforcing correct technique in a boat you can handle.  Also you'll learn a whole lot more about racing in a boat which is upright!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nihil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 07 at 3:28pm
Cheers for the response folks, much appreciated.

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Where are you based when not in Falmouth?


I live about 45 mins from Southampton in Hampshire.

Originally posted by JimC

wander down to the club you plan to sail at, find out what the popular boats are, and blag a ride in a few of them.


A good plan, except I don’t know exactly what the plan is regarding location. I may well be sailing quite a bit in Falmouth, but as I said, I’m based in Hampshire, so I really aught to find a club around here. Anyone know a good club in Hants?

As for the boat being a little advanced, that’s kinda what I figured the response would be, but I was hoping it would be just within ‘reach’ so to speak, so that we could grow into it as our skills developed.

Since several people on this forum and others have described the 2000 as a ‘lump’ or a ‘tank’, which isn’t the most flattering description, (and it costs quite a bit) can anyone suggest an alternative that offers similar performance/forgiving flexibility from a different manufacturer? I have always been more familiar with lasers than boats from people like RS etc.

The plan at the moment would seem to be getting a 2k or something equivalent, then flogging it in a year or two and getting a V3000, since its apparently even better than the old 3k was.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 07 at 11:19pm

With your combined crew weight a 3000 would be a good match; it would be much cheaper secondhand and lighter to wheel around too than a 2k (and much more fun!). But as Jim C says, it may be a little brisk for a level 2 sailor (although 3000's are stable, and i've always said that if another dinghy is out sailing in a blow, a Laser 3000 can be out there too - the sails are small and manageable)

Where are you based when not in Falmouth? We've no members that far South West, but might be able to fix you up with a demo elsewhere? PM me if you're interested, and do have a browse of the class website below.

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